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I've been running Verity Parsifal Encores for some time now. I love the speakers, but have been wondering what I can do to take them to the next level of completeness. The obvious is enhancing bass, but I don't want to detract from the rest of the wonderful speaker (IMO). Has anyone mated a sub to these speakers? How? What are your thoughts and opinions on doing this?

I can either spend some $$$ and get the Sarastros, or I can add a sub and see how she goes... Let me know your thoughts, advice or experienced opinion.

I have Shindo Corton Charlemagne 80 amps, Shindo Masseto pre, a Levinson 390S CD, and TW Acustic Raven AC TT.

Many thanks!
hatari
Hi, FrankC
I 've found the Parsifal Encore very esaily to drive,
( as I sold my mezzo Utopia at once after trying Parsifal ,
My previous mistake to use 300B S.E. with Utopia, then I changed to Canary CA303 (2 x 300B P-P,manual stating 26 Watts, I stay with 300B always;
still cannot control the Utopia's bass )

after switching to Parsifal, everything is perfect
( at least perfect to me, and loved by my other audiophile
friends too ). It can handle well large sound stage
like playing Carmen Habenera Fantasia; Hungarian Rhasody;
Symphonie Fantastique op.14, " New World" etc. as well as
fine detailed strings & guitars.

I came across the BDR Platform by chance, with the Leaflets/attachments in the packing, it seems it is
a line already developed, especially they made the size
(though about 0.1-0.15 mm smaller than the granite )
the tilt edge, ( sloping edge ) and all corners are fitting
as the granite, except you can see the horizontal lines
on the sides ( BDR put a label at the bottom, stating this
No.has tiny cosmetic flaws, as they are not polishing,
or covering the sloping sides further )

I bought them ( sh be much more expensiver then the Verity
Ovation Platform, I think ) It is priced USD 705.- /pair.
they supplied ten Damping pads.
I don't mind the cost as I really love my Parsifal very
much. I 've then purchased more 6pcs BDR Mk 4 cones to
my Dual Mono Block Pre-amp, they make improvements too.
I am goint to buy 6 pcs more ( But Mk 3 ) for the 2 chassis of Power supply of the Pre-amp next week.

If you are also using Parsifal,the kind that bi-wiring is
not to consider, and as they have the cross-over/filter ( I don't know the exactness , is for the speaker signals to
pass thru the low range unit first, then with jumpers to
deliver to the monitors. I had tried with
XLO Limited Ed. , audio Notes Sogon Jumpers, but I finally
selected Siltech's Emperor G6 SATT Jumpers, expensive
but I have used them for more than 2 years now, I am sill
happy with this "good buy". Never " good-bye" to Parsifal and these Emperor Jumpers, I think.
Friends that would not beleive
such "wrongly_priced- one friend claimed, came to my house
with numerous jumpers they had used, all agreed with
my decision. If "Emperor" is too expensive, one may try
"eskay" I hope, as siltech's nature fit Parsifal's
or other speaker of high definition too ;the utmost fine resolution, a sound with "grace". If you say "not natural"
I have no word to fight back. I buy them to please myself
never consider to stay dry, dull, just clean.
I even said many times, if one day I shall meet one
"used / re-selling" Siltech Emperor 8 ft sp cable( good
condition ) I will take them in, though it costs more than
the parsifal. ( the Jumpers gave me the confidence that
this speakerscable must be for lifetime keeping.
Strange stuff..

As I noted above, I shuffled a whole bunch of amps into and out of a system featuring Parsifal Encores. My Cary 300B monos, which work wonderfully with many other speakers - including Merlin VSMs - couldn't drive the P/Es at all. An early Atma S-30 produced so little bass, I was concerned that either the speaker or amp was broken, till I switched them to other partners and they performed well. IME, the P/Es have worked welll with modestly powered SS amps, but have tortured exotic, low powered tube amps into real distress.

Just my experience.

Marty
The Verity website offers no valuable information, nor does it inspire confidence. Is Verity owned by some foreign conglomerate or are they just deliberately vague?
Dpang233: what size room do you have, and do you use the Verity P/Es with the sub unit forward or backward facing? How far from the wall do you place them? Thanks for the input.
Hi Dave_b
the Current Web_site has not carried Users' Manual of
Parsifal Encore, nor they have those detailed Users' manual
on web, they only accompanied packing.

I have looked up my User Manual, the file was dated
July 2001, and there was one whole page explaining
the fine, detailed, fast, sensitiveness of the drivers.
and also one page with Heading
" Using Low Power Tube Amplication "
I quoted " ...mid-sensitivity 89db @ 1W @ 1 meter.....
In an average room of 1500 cubic ft., 10 watts of amplication could get 94 db SPL. which is the time-average
spectra level for a theatre organ or a bass drum. For those who enjoy realistic playback levels, it is normally
sufficient."

"We took special care to makethe low frequency impedance-curve more easy to drive for low-power amprefiers. the lowest impedance presented by the P/encore is it DC resistance of 4.0 ohms; at its tuning frequency of 30HZ and up to 100Hz the mean impedance is bout 65. ohms, having the lowest point at 4.0ohms..... the monitor, when used a lone, at nominal impedance of 8.0 ohms, out design
is to adjust the overall frequency balance. typically , a good setup could use as little as a 20-watt amplifier in an average or lively listening room of 2,000 cu.ft."
we tried several low-power amplifier with Parsifal and
got very good result "

Hi Hatari
my room is (ft) 25 x 15 x 9 H,but I am placing the Parsifal
Back-firing at the longer wall... , not near to the side wall atl all ; actually Low bass is
less than with tehm against the shorter wall..nearer to the side wall.
I am well familiar with the Fibonacci's nos. applied in too many aspects of life, so they are just 59 inches (
membrance of mid/tweeter to rear wall ).

I repeated, friends using much more power Amps than mine
mine more higher grade ( & size ) speakers than Parsifal
has come and listen... for the parsifal as well as the
"legendary" Siltech /emperor G6 Satt Jumpers I used on them
none of them has claimed the parsifal played with my
"average" quality in their mind, Canary CA303 mono-block
300B power amp (only 26 watt )lack of any bass , at folk, rock, large scale symphonies.