Jazz for aficionados
The subject of RAP makes my head hurt. I am not prepared to say that it is not music, but I do know that if it is music, it is not music that I can relate to nor want to relate to. It doesn't fit my, and most traditional, definitions of music (no melody/harmony), but it certainly occupies a place in current culture that more traditional musics have previously; obviously, particularly in the segement of our population that gave birth to it. I agree with much of Orpheus10's characterization of it in that it is a social statement, but it seems to me that it represents far more than a subculture; it is now pervasive in our culture. As Rok points out, it is everywhere. And how sad it is that the generation and ethnic group that supports it primarily are so clueless about the incredibly rich musical history that they are neglecting instead; much of it discussed in this thread. |
Orpheus10, completely agree about Lecuona; some of the most beautiful. An honest and well intended observation about a previous comment you made: *****Am I the only person who finds it difficult to appreciate "solo" piano; where's the bass, where's the saxophone, where's the something besides a lone piano. No reflection on the music or the artist, but a personal observation of my perception of music; I need a combination of instruments. While it's been nice to hear Kaper's music played on solo piano by Kaper, this listener requires a band in order for the music to project a wide range of emotions, and get me involved.***** Glad you enjoy the solo piano by Lecuona. |
Check this out. Killer arrangement, smoking rhythm section and great solos. Love the way that Valdes relaxes the time feel when he plays the well-known Zawinal melody over the drummer's simple but relentless and driving groove. Great stuff! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2W8gbBzvUU |
I think we can say that RAP was hijacked. In the beginning it was good, even great. Sort of like an urban version of Dylan. Then folks figured out you didn't much to do it. No talent or musical training. Anyone with a loud foul mouth could do it. Lot of money to be made with little overhead. But if you don't understand the 'RAP' phenomenon, just remember the advice of Deep Throat, 'Follow the Money'! I have a CD by Ice-T and Quincy Jones that is not too bad. Even has 'Birdland' on it. Ice-T raps. If you want the real deal, try 'The last Poets'. I warn you, not to everyone's taste, but great and painfully accurate commentary on inner city life. From the 70s, but sadly, still revelant. And they point the finger at the correct people. Truly urban Dylan. Currently listening to Woody Shaw's WOODY III. Will report later. Cheers |
