What to upgrade first for better sound quality?


What is going to give me the most improvement in sound quality. I am an analog guy only. Current equipment is a MAC MA6600, VPI Prime w/ortofon 2m Black MM cartridge and revel f-30 speakers. While I have been on the fence with adding a separate phono stage as mine only has a MM one I wonder if I am better off upgrading speakers, cartridge and/or phono pre. Thanks for your opinions.
rkbcpa55
Very good advice so far!
How many watts you need depends on the sensitivity of your speakers. Why most tube users like highly sensitive speakers. But I feel, just me personally, that the amp controls the tone of your system, I started into this hobby years ago with an Adcom amp, 200wpc, very nice for the price! And I went through 3 pairs of speakers and the overall sound of the system really didn't change. Sure one speaker may have been slightly louder, or had cleaner treble, but the big bass sound of that amp was a constant. Switching to the Forte' amp I've got now changed the entire character of the stereo.
And of course the preamp feeds the amp, also very important to the basic sound of your system. This is critical, mess up here and nothing before it,
or after it, can make a difference.

But I am speaking in generalities, I've read articles that advise one buy a stereo from the speakers back, buying your source gear last. This may be good advice? And I agree with the others that your cartridge and phono pre are not up to the rest of your gear. A really good phono pre, which doesn't have to cost a lot, can really wake up that analog front end! It was a major step up for me, when I went to a separate phono pre it really woke the analog up and it sailed past my digital front end in one leap! Personally I went from the one built into my Parasound Preamp to a $1000 Phonomena, which isn't even a super choice but it still wowed me big time! More air, more soundstage! More bass!

This revelation prompted me to jump up a few notches to a much better cartridge. I was worried, will I hear a real difference between a $500 and a $1500 cartridge? I mean, enough to justify the cost? And wow did it ever! Jumping from a Sumiko Special III, to a Lyra Delos was some of the best money I ever spent in my system! On my vpi Classic. I'm not that familiar with your particular gear, but this was my experience with my system.

And look at it this way, if you do buy a cartridge and preamp, it will make a major upgrade to your sound that you will hear and appreciate! Even if it's not the tweak you are looking for, it will still be money well spent. And also leave a few hundred for a new phono cable! A good phono cable doesn't have to break the bank, great cables can be had for reasonable prices.

And I will say that you do have some nice gear, I'm sure it will be easy to coax more out of it.
09-08-15: Elunkenheimer
Did a little web surfing, but do you have a $6000 Mac MA6600 with a $3800 VPI Prime table all driven by a $700 Ortofon cartridge?

So if you vary the funds spent on cartridge you can vary the sound quality respectively by increasing or decreasing?
Yes that is what I have for equipment. But before I upgrade to MC cartridge I need phono stage. Since the MAC has a low input impedance on line stages of 20k I need to make sure it is compatible. Right now I'm leaning towards the Herron VTPH-2 but am still looking for other options too.

If you want to eventually move to a MC cart. I would stay away from the lower priced ARC phono preamps. The PH8 or Ref Pnono 2 would be better choices.

I have a Fosgate Signature phono stage. This is a great sounding tube phone preamp that is highly adjustable. I am using a Benz Zebra wood LO MC cart with absolutely no problem.
Sorry about jumping into this topic late. I have an ASR Mini Basis Exclusive phono amp and it made my Thorens TD 145/Grado ME + mono sing, which is really saying something. Now I'm waiting for a low output Grado Statement Sonata 1 mono and will pair it with the ASR phono amp and TD 145. I do have a Herbies record mat on the TD 145 and that was crazy good from the very start. So I'm slowly turning the Thorens TD 145 into a Franken-thorens but I'm currently using the stock TP 16 tonearm.
But the overall point being that the ASR Mini Basis is a great phono stage for its price and it will support all cartridge types, even low output cartridges. It reaches up to 72 decibels of gain if I'm not mistaken.
I can hardly wait to receive my new Grado and being as such, posted a topic concerning cartridge alignment in the Tech Talk forum.