Is no preamp really better that a good preamp?


Hi All, I have PS Audio gear, and both my DAC and my phono section have enough gain to run directly to the amp. Is this really the optimal arrangement, or might I actually get better sound by adding a good preamp, say a Cary or a Modwright tube unit, to the mix. Thanks in advance.
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We (audiophiles) all try to get the very best possible sound that blows us away, then it's a shame that some of us have to compromise it because we need to change sources and are not up to just to unplug and change them.

This why I have a dedicated system with the least compromises in my hifi room, and another one in a TV room for all the other stuff/crap like surround sound, tuner, internet streaming ect.

Oh and I suppose your may have read this post about the K-01 which is Delta Sigma vs his older Reimyo R2R Ladder Multibit dac, which all the very best are starting to use again because this way of conversion it is said to give a better presentation of real music, the owner also missed the warmth of his Reimyo when he changed to the K-01

[url]http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1358613368&&&/Unsatisfied-with-Esoteric-K-01:-Alternat[/url]

So that's two of you with the same beef about the K-01, wouldn't it be better to fix the problem rather than just putting a very expensive band-aid on it, and causing maybe other problems.

Cheers George
That a component is cool or warm may not really be a problem in itself. It is designed that way and some audiophiles may like it as is. To match it with a synergistic component is an art for the audiophile to nuture in this hobby. And that's just what we try to do everyday instead of changing components right after just buying them new.
Cheers! J.
George makes a good point- if a preamp robs you of transparency and detail, its not helping!

The same can be said of an improperly applied passive control.

In both cases, audition is necessary.

It is not correct to say that all active preamps take away from detail and transparency or add colorations. Some give you *less* coloration with greater detail and transparency.

But it is also not correct to say that all passive controls take away from detail and transparency or add colorations. Some give you less coloration with greater detail and transparency; **in either case its all in the setup.**

The issue is you have to pay attention to variables and interconnect are one of the bigger sets of variables. For example, I like to have my preamp and turntable near the listening chair, and my amps as close to the speakers as I can get them. So my interconnects are 30 feet long. A passive does not work in this situation. To get around cable problems, I run equipment that supports the balanced line standard (defined in the AES file 48) and thus the cable does not contribute or detract from the sound.

A further variable in input and output impedances of the equipment in use. This can work badly with either active or passive systems- again- its all in the setup!

When the cable ceases to be part of the system sound (regardless of how you go about it), that's a good thing. If you are running a passive system, the obvious lesson here is keep your cables short!


Ralph??? we are discussing about what the OP's question is, stop rambling about passives, GET A GRIP MATE.

"Is no preamp really better that a good preamp"
"It is not correct to say that all active preamps take away from detail and transparency or add colorations. Some give you *less* coloration with greater detail and transparency."
+1,Ralph.
You hit the nail on the head.

That is precisely what a preamp did for my whole system - greater detail and transparency.
Having a preamp also solved the impedance mismatch between the K-01 and Bryston 28B monos.

But in George's little world, change the source OR power amp! Surreal!

Cheers@ J.