Jazz for aficionados

Frogman and Rok, I disagree 300% with the both of you. What's wrong with this country is highly intelligent, college educated men going around with "sunshine glasses", when we have welfare for corporations, but nothing for the poor, that's economic injustice; however, I don't advise openly taking my view because "big brother" is watching and listening.

Now back to our regular program; "speaking of sunshine", Charenee Wade brings me sunshine.
"Ackman" originally brought this to my attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JabrQh5vql4

Enjoy the music.

O-10, hyperbole about the merits of Santeria dance is fairly innocuous and easily overlooked; hyperbole about issues that are relevant and crucial to a way of life so many in this country take for granted needs to be called out. Big Brother (whoever that is) can listen all he wants. As I get older I find I need to call out comments like "(we have) nothing for the poor". Imperfect and fraught with problems, yes; but, this country still offers more and more opportunity for the poor than just about any other. The real problem in this country is that so many view the wealth of some as what they don't have, instead of as what they could have; if wealth is a goal. As someone who has experienced and lived both sides of the coin, all I can say is "try the other side for a while, and then get back to me"

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

The Poor:

The Bible says there will always be poor folks. This can be considered as a 'case closed' statement.

Poverty is an important, even vital part of the Capitalistic system. It's to Capitalism, what Hell is, to religion.

If the government and private groups were not helping the poor, there would not be so many of them.

The U.S. is the most generous country on Earth. Government and People.

Government Statistics say:
(1) If you finish High School
(2) Don't have any children out of wedlock
(3) Don't have any children before age 20
You will not be poor.

Not a very high bar for conduct at all. I guess these days we should add drug use.

Now, you make the moral case, for the Government taking money from some people, and giving it to other able bodied people, because I can't.

And, the welfare state has destroyed millions of families in this country. The consequences of which we see everyday in places like Chicago and ST Louis.

My thoughts on Government help are sort of like the old blues song, you should have to be Blind, Crippled or Crazy.

Cheers

BTW, listened to this today. An artist that has been solely neglected on this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-bGVsANv3g

Frogman, I hope you're having a happy Thanksgiving, a lot of people aren't. Can you add subtract, and multiply; I can, and so can this man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNyBLLcEIds

The Pentagon.................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8I8VGLNUw

Senator Bernie Sanders..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmijFEF5Fk8

I'll wait for your response.........After this I'll give you more.

O-10, I am not about to engage in a protracted discussion of these issues on this thread. All I can say at this point about those clips is that propaganda takes many forms and that Bernie Sanders is a fool (which I already knew). Now, let's take a look at why this discussion got even this far. From someone who you have previously accused of "spreading discontent":

I make what I would consider a positive, optimistic comment about this country while acknowledging that there are still many problems and that mistakes have been made. Still, I consider it a great country in spite of those negatives. I also point to my feeling that Jazz (Coltrane's "Blue Trane" in particular) is one of its contributions and one of the reasons that it is a great country. You had three choices at that point: 1. You could have ignored my comment. 2. You could have acknowledged that, particularly now, during the Thanksgiving season, there is always room for a bit of positive outlook on just about any issue; or, 3. You could "disagree 300%" and take the issue into the realm of "injustice" and the condemnation of the "college educated". Obviously, you are free to take anyone of those choices; but, let's be clear: who is it that is spreading discontent? More importantly: where, exactly, is the disagreement?

I think it's fair to say that we would both agree that there are problems and that this country has made mistakes. I also think it's fair to say that Jazz, the subject of this thread, is one of this country's greatest artistic contributions. So, what is left? The idea that this is a great country. With all due respect, anyone who can't recognize that this country is, in spite of all its problems and ample room for improvement, a great country is, just like Bernie Sanders, foolish.

It is unfortunate that some will not have a Happy Thanksgiving as you suggest. Unfortunate, because there is always something to be thankful for.
Happy Thanksgiving.