Tried analog yet again after decades of digital


Ok Im posting this on the digital format because Id be handed my head if on the analog side.I like many over the years decided to try analog again.Ive hauled around records for years from place to place and never really wanted to part with them,more a memory thing I guess.To the point,I purchased a VPI scout recently,mounting a benz micro cartridge to it and various phone preamps I have inside such things as receivers and integrated amps along with a stand alone phono.Bought the record cleaner machine and all the stuff necessary to use the format properly,I think.Set the table up with time and patience and dialed it in as best I could without getting anal about it.What Im finding is a format that is really inferior to digital IMO.I say this forgetting the fact I wasn't expecting much as years ago I tried the same venture with disappointment of the out come.The constant snap ,crackle pop even on unplayed records,the hassle of having to get up every 15 minute to change the side,constant cleaning,setup of the table,all the bobbles needed to make it all go.I think to even come close to digital one must spend tons of money and tons of time.Im sure there are sytems that sound incredible,but at what expense and how much time devoted to it..Dont get me wrong its fun to play music that never made it to disc but anyone thinking alone these same lines as to recapturing what was once the only game in town,think long and hard.
missioncoonery
IMO, vinyl isn't for everyone, and Missioncoonery, it sounds to me like you had a mismatch in your analogue chain or an other than optimal setup

I dont think so,my guess is my TT setup sounds as good as most posting here except the fool that said VPI is low end table.It sound much better than what I had back in the day but for me and again this is just me..the expensive,the time,the cleaning,the setup,the tickering on and on doesn't justify what im hearing compoared to my digital side...and again its fun to hear music I haven't heard in years but that's about where it ends
I am going through the same transition. Listened to vinyl back in the 70-80s. Then seduced by the convenience of CDs. Then the disappointment with CDs as the resolution of my system increased. Then the return of happiness with digital when I began ripping CDs for playback on the Bryston BDP-1. Now, after 35 -40 years, resurrected my LP collection which I never abandoned.

I can say I have some recordings where digital is superior, and others where LP blows the digital away. Strongly depends on program material, how old the LP is and when it was recorded, and compared to what digital source. I have some digital recordings where a significant amount of low level detail is just gone, and other vinyl sources that sound thin and lacking in bass. Remember that the most recent "remasters" of 80's vintage music are made from very old (and perhaps degraded) tapes, and any reproduction from these is never going to compare with a first pressing vinyl version of the same music pressed back in the 70s or 80s. Sprinkle that with an overuse of noise reduction by engineers producing digital music for the masses and you can have large differences. Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon comes to mind.

I agree there is a ritual to using phono, and cleaning is a vital part. I use the simple immersion spin cleaners. They are cheap enough that I have two; one for detergent cleaning and one for rinsing. I use DI water in both, and find that many of the surface noise issues of the 80s are gone. Completely. Immersion in a fluid is the only reliable way to remove static charges, and a semi-dry vacuum brush system can put static back.
There are tons of ways to deal with static electricity including but not limited to use of a long lasting commercial type spray on the carpet and other surfaces that could develop a static electric charge such as windows, bookshelves and clothes, a negative ion type room air purifier, even a coupla desk top devices would be a lot better than nothing, a tourmaline gun (that produces negative ions from heating the tourmaline) products such as Nordost Anti Static Spray and last but not least a humidifier to, you know, reduce the potential for static electrical charges generally.
Yes, there are other ways to deal with static. Most are hit and miss because vinyl is an insulator and pockets of static charge can get on the surface. Unless you contact that pocket directly, a brush or Zerostat will not be that effective. I have tried those ozone/ionizers that are battery operated and they are basically the same as a Zerostat, only better because they produce a flow of ionized gas and you don't need to keep pulling a trigger.

The one sure fire way that always works is dipping in a fluid like deionized water. It is the ultimate "humidifier". With a small amount (~2%) of IPA (iso-propyl alcohol) for wetting, it gets in the smallest nooks and grooves a brush cannot. Dries with zero residues if you use high quality DI water.

Would rather use pure water than any "anti-static" spray that could leave residues or contamination.