Decision Decision Decision between Cary and Audio Research Sound

Eddy ...

Why not pick up a used ARC Classic 30 or ARC Classic 60 to pair with your preamp?

 Also, if I were you, I'd forget about "warm" or "transparent," and just concentrate on what music really sounds like when you hear it live. 

Have you ever seen the original version of "The Wizard of Oz?" That movie was made in the old Technicolor days ... beautiful to look at (warm), but not true to life. Everyone loves Technicolor movies ... but break away from the movie and walk outside into the environment. That's realism.

So, then Eddy, the challenge you have is ... do you want the distractions of Technicolor, admittedly with its unique attractions, or do you want realism like in real life? 

I submit that what you refer to as "transparency" is more true to reality, and will be more satisfying over the long haul. 

And by the way, as an owner of an ARC Classic 60 for over 30 years, I can tell you that it has its own special musicality. Not near as "transparent" as the ARC REF amps of today, but addicting nonetheless. And the ARC CL 30 is even a little sweeter sounding than the ARC CL 60. 

Happy listening ... 

I would highly recommend the Cary over the ARC integrated amp, but like the previous poster, I have a great fondness for the ARC Classic 30/60 series of amps.  IMHO, some of ARC's most musical amps. 

Thank you so much for everyone suggestions.  If I am going to buy a used once, how can tell if I need a new set of tube.  

What is average set of tube cost for ARC Classic 60, Cary SLI-80, and Rogue Monoblocks 150 incase I need new set of tube.

An old tube will roll off the highs and sound less dynamic.  From a physical standpoint, the Getter flashing will shrink in size and get cloudy around the edges.

Nice Kt88 output tubes are around $50ea, therefore, the Sli-80 would need 4 and the Classic 60 would need 8.

Thank you brf.