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Of course, it should be Adolphe, not Adolf; hate this spell checker.

Hi everyone - I can't resist commenting on the Carmen. One of the very finest recordings of this, both from a musical and an audiophile standpoint, is the live recording done at the Met with Leonard Bernstein conducting and Marilyn Horne singing Carmen. There is not a better recording out there. Horne is one of the greatest singers ever, and the sonics on it are incredible. On the DG label. One of the truly rare times when the greatest performance was also given the incredible recording it deserved.

Rok, the snare drummer is often placed at the front of the stage in performances of Bolero. It is actually an incredibly difficult thing to do, to keep exact time for the entire duration of that piece, and it is physically very exhausting as well. So although it usually makes them much more nervous being placed in the front and center, they do appreciate the recognition that they have by miles the most difficult task in that piece.

Rok, I think tonight I'll answer your second question, are people ever fired. The very short answer would be yes, it can happen. First off, after winning an audition to get a position in an orchestra, there is a probationary period. In many orchestras this is one year, though in some, it is two years. If the musician is not up to scratch, they are let go at the end of this probationary period. This happens from time to time. Once a musician is tenured, however, it becomes much more difficult to fire them for artistic reasons. Basically, there is a peer review process, much like doctors and lawyers have. It works much the same pretty much everywhere. If the music director wants to fire someone for artistic reasons, they have to first inform the musician of what the problems are, by a certain date in the season. Then the musician has some time to fix the issues. If they have not, in the music director's opinion, then it goes to a peer review board. This is the committee you definitely hope you don't get elected to every season. :) Usually the musician has the option to play for this committee, and they certainly have the opportunity to state their case. The music director states his/her case. Then there is a secret ballot vote. It takes a certain number of votes to overturn the music directors decision - usually, almost the entire committee would have to vote against the conductor to actually overturn it. In many situations, if the committee is very split, then there is another period of time that goes by, after which it is usually the music director's sole decision. This part of the CBA is by miles the most carefully spelled out, as you might imagine.

Usually, though, things don't get that far. Often, the person in question might be asked to "retire", and offered some sort of financial incentive to do so. Another example might be a person who is in a principal position, and they don't want to deal with the stress of that anymore; they may step down into a section position some years before they actually retire.

It is more common for someone to get fired for cause. For instance, someone in the LA Phil calling in sick, but then going to work a lucrative film recording session. Several members of the LA Phil have been fired for this in the last few decades. Musicians have been fired for alcohol/drug problems that affected their performance, in some cases even after being sent to rehab by the orchestra. I know a musician this happened to after he relapsed. Though the orchestra had paid for his rehab the first time, and had tried to help him, they did not do so a second time, and he was fired. He has since cleaned himself up, and is still earning a living free-lancing and teaching.

Happy New Year Frogman. I'm glad you're back to continue our musical journey to wherever it leads us.

Enjoy the music.

Learsfool:

Thanks for the post. That was very interesting. One of the reasons I ask all these questions is that, of all the different genres I listen to, and I listen to them all, I find Classical players the most interesting.

I guess because they are the most anonymous. The Conductors and the singers get all the glory and recognition, but the players make all the magic.

They also look and act so 'normal'. Could be the guy next door, or someone's Grandma. And the ages vary by a larger margin than most other musical groups. I often wondered what they, and their careers / musical lives were like.

I looked for the Horne CD on Amazon. I think I will have to settle for a used copy. "like New" :) It's a 3 CD set, so that means the complete Opera. I usually like the 'highlights'. But, if you say it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, I will have to get it.

I looked at all my Operas on LP today. Gotta love that cover art. Nothing by Horne, although I do know of her. I have several with Beverly Sills, my first favorite. Street wise NY babe.

I did wiki Horne. Interesting life.

Thanks for the tip and info.

Cheers

Rok, here's another Classical piece that I like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ip64cG7gK4

Enjoy the music.