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****Frogman, can you be musically and politically correct?****

Are you asking whether I can be, or are you asking whether ONE can be?  Also, what do you mean by "musically correct"?

****What is your assessment when comparing "free jazz" to what I consider is within musical bounds.****

Couldnt even begin to answer that question.  Your musical bounds are yours.  I may feel that your "bounds" are too restrictive, but they are your comfort zone, not mine.  I find value in some free jazz as long as it's not bs masquerading as jazz.   I've said it before, imo the listener should always have a certain degree of humility when trying to make an assessment like this.  What I mean is, I may not "like" a particular musical choice by an artist; however, when we're talking about an artist who is an acknowledged musical giant, as Coltrane was, to declare it "going too far" strikes me as arrogant.  I prefer to, at least for the time being, respect that artist's musical vision and leave the door open to perhaps growing to understand and maybe even like it some day.  After all, who the hell am I (or you) compared to a giant like Coltrane.  Personally, I would put my money on his judgment not mine.   Of course, not all artists merit that level of respect.

O-10, I realize that there is no hope of you ever cutting out the crap, because it’s obvious that you feel threatened by my presence on this thread. As I said before, if you’re looking for an argument please look elsewhere. I wasn’t aware that anyone here was obligated to answer every question asked of them, especially when the comments that you direct at me are often laced with sarcasm and your questions have proven to sometimes be no more that baiting. I realize that you are incapable of seeing, never mind acknowledging this, but my posts are clear, succinct and (usually) extremely well written. I don’t give a darn whether you can acknowledge that or not, but, man!, can you try a person’s patience. Try, for once, taking responsibilty for what you write and how you write it; it is often confusing and muddled. Let’s see, we were talking about fusion; and "in depth" as you requested. Then, you write this:

****Santana and "Abraxas" took over the world of music in 1970; this music could be heard everywhere I went; jazz, rock, blues establishments, no matter what the dominant genre of music in that particular lounge, something from "Abraxas" was on the jukebox. (never went to a hillbilly lounge)

Rok, you have to go back to what was happening at that time in order to re-discover fusion; I’m sure you bought at least 2 or 3 fusion albums.****

Is it that far fetched that I should think that you were using that as an example? Especially when it IS fusion; of a different kind. And if I did misconstue what you meant...so what? Why all the indignation? Get over it man!! Why don’t you try making a significant contribution to the topic YOU brought up instead of all this bs? We’re to 1973 now and I’m still waiting 😁

****I can not imagine anyone stupid enough to think Santana "Abraxas" was fusion.****

I can.

Music Lovers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1hA-xnVGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKje5CHKQhg

Cheers

Fabulous!  What a heart warming story.  Gareth Malone is a saint.  And, the next time someone says "either you got it or you don't".......

Thanks for sharing.

Frogman, it crossed my mind, that you had mentioned we had not gone into fusion in depth. (idea) Go into fusion, and let Frogman "Lead the Parade"

You posted on page 127; 5-15-2016 10:31 AM and you did not post again until
5-16-2016 at 8:17 PM, that's over 24 hours, and you were supposed to be leading the parade in fusion. After your first post, I responded with a positive post.

What do you do; instead of going on into fusion, you go into one of your negative diatribes as usual.

Rok, does not like fusion, I liked fusion when it came out, but when Rok mentioned it did not pass the CD test, I knew exactly what he was talking about; I spent money on one of those HD down loads, and never even play the thing, I forgot about it; that says what I care about fusion.

If anything can be "F"ed up you're the man to do it. We didn't have to be here, but we are.



Enjoy the music.