Loudspeakers have we really made that much progress since the 1930s?


Since I have a slight grasp on the history or loudspeaker design. And what is possible with modern. I do wonder if we have really made that much progress. I have access to some of the most modern transducers and design equipment. I also have  large collection of vintage.  I tend to spend the most time listening to my 1930 Shearer horns. For they do most things a good bit better than even the most advanced loudspeakers available. And I am not the only one to think so I have had a good num of designers retailers etc give them a listen. Sure weak points of the past are audible. These designs were meant to cover frequency ranges at the time. So adding a tweeter moves them up to modern performance. To me the tweeter has shown the most advancement in transducers but not so much the rest. Sure things are smaller but they really do not sound close to the Shearer.  http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/lmco/shearer.htm
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As I opined here earlier, technology has advanced the performance of home audio gear greatly over the years.  The Shearer system that the OP mentioned is not a home audio system but an enormous thing designed for theaters and movie houses; it is totally impractical for normal home use.  The Western Electric systems of the day were essentially cost-is-no-object designs that were too expensive for even the theaters to own and were mostly leased out.  They were built when labor was relatively cheap and so it was possible to build handmade items in somewhat smaller production runs.  Home audio profited greatly from technological advances that allowed for much smaller speakers that could be manufactured on more capital-intensive production line basis.  The sound of home audio was completely different from that of the large theater systems, and over time that sound evolved to where we are now--a different aesthetic from those old horn systems.

I am certain modern designers could build systems that sound like those old school systems, and using modern materials and science, provide superior performance in the areas those old designs are lacking.  For the most part, they don't because the mass market has no exposure to that sound and so there is not much demand.  There are modern builders who cater to this niche market, but, they can only build on a small scale and cost, particularly labor, is extremely high so the stuff is EXPENSIVE (e.g., Goto).

Atmasphere is, in my opinion, correct that these vintage systems cannot deliver the kind of deep bass that modern systems deliver.  Even the massive Shearers and Western based systems do not have much in the way of punchy, deep bass.  The light paper cones with low-compliance suspensions that don't allow the cones to move in and out very far are not capable in that respect.  But, aside from that, they deliver a VERY special kind of sound.  If that is your particular taste, there are not many modern alternatives (and certainly not many reasonably-priced one), so it is mostly an academic exercise saying that modern designs are, or are not, superior.  The Classic Audio Reproductions field coil speakers certainly do deliver the incredible dynamics and clarity of the old school systems, and I will take Atmasphere's word that they deliver much lower distortion, but, I think they are voiced like modern systems and so they are not really "replacements" for such systems.

Agreed. Transducer design has not changed for decades. Mostly tweaks. Some older designs are extremely good even against the best available today. 

From my perspective, the biggest step change was when transistor based power amplifiers allowed greater flexibility in speaker transducer design and realistic LF bass frequencies. Greater power in power amplifiers has allowed wider directivity and less efficient transducers to be employed and active designs allow for better integration. 

So the 70's was when a step change occurred. Arena rock and the golden era of the recording studio helped drive the technology.

Mercedes produced a vehicle in 1938 that produced 736 hp and ran speeds of 268 mph.  That proves cars have not improved..

In 1964 the SR71 was produced, this plane set the absolute speed record on the planet in the mid 70's.... so, I guess planes have not improved.

Did the SR71 have cloaking capabilities?  Klingons?  Hmmm

These analogies are the same... great stuff was introduced a long time ago,  but the improvements have been massive. 

Everything that we have had to be invented at some point... Show me anything like a Magico... Shoot,  show me a Bose! 

Point is well made that there haven't been many New INVENTIONS,  but the improvements have been astronomical! 

So,  patent a Microwave that plays incredible music..... Never mind, that's just for fat guys.

I think microphones are the aspect of audio that has not progressed much and even if so most  engineers are using vintage mics or newly built ones with using old topologies.   
I have a very novel concept for mics and tried to pitch it to someone once, but it would be expensive to develop since it uses no diaphragm 
So..it appears that John is right, there is no innovation in a true meaning of it, just some improvements in certain areas, maybe.
Speaking of cars, not from 30s. The original BMW M3, small and light, was a true driver's car. The same with Porsche. Now look at those modern computers on wheels that those cars have become. I don't need them.
I used to run a Ford Bronco, because I could load my hang glider on it and get to the top of any mountain that had a road up it. It had no computers and was easy to service, being very simple.

I replaced it with an Expedition, which has about the same cargo area. Despite having an automatic (the Bronco had a 5-speed overdrive transmission), the Expedition accelerates faster, due to having about twice the power, handles better, is very quiet inside, is also much more comfortable and despite the computer is a lot more reliable and just does not need the service all the time like the Bronco did. On top of all that, it gets about 3 mpg better mileage. That is a difference that was wrought in the space of about 25 years.

The funny thing is, the basic designs of the two are really similar.

This is true of speakers too. But if one ignores the effect that materials science has had on speakers one might likely throw out the baby with the bath. Kapton didn't exist 70 years ago. Neither did highly regulated power supplies. The impact of the Theile/Small parameters can't be ignored.

If I were to point to one thing that has really affect high end audio in the last 30 years its how we manage vibration. Speaker cabinets are much more dead now; literally that's the big improvement in most turntables, and killing breakup in drivers is still a pretty big deal.

I like the older designs but there's not a one of them that won't break up.

Its up to the individual to ascertain how important these improvements are. For my own part, I appreciate the size and efficiency as well as the refinement offered by the new technology that simply isn't there in older designs. 

But I make my own recordings. I know what they sound like...