Jazz for aficionados

O-10, I am not quite sure I understand what the problem is. I can appreciate and respect Acman3's choice to not engage in much of the debate/discussion, but, over the last three days alone, there have been close to a dozen links to new music and no reaction to them except from Rok and I who are the most "guilty" of discussing the "factors around the music". Some of us find it very interesting to discuss the factors around the music. In my opinion that is, in great part, what leads to new discoveries, because by discussing these is, in fact, one of the most important ways to "broaden the definition". The problem is that, as usual, we can't have it both ways. If we simply want to share links to music that we each like and leave it at that, that is fine; but, if one doesn't want to be subject to discussing the "factors around the music", then I think those posts should be free of proclamations about things that may need to be challenged when they have no basis in fact or reality. There have been, and continue to be, comments made about the state of jazz, what is jazz, the quality of certain artists, etc. that are simply not rooted in what is the accepted wisdom (and, in many cases, fact) on those subjects. There is a deep and pervasive romanticized and politicized (for lack of a better word) influence on many listeners' views of the sphere of the art world that is simply incorrect, and this can lead to a bias and very premature dismissal of certain music without first giving it a fair shot. As you have often pointed out, the reasons for our individual likes and dislikes is subjective, but it is important to understand that there are, in fact, certain objective standards that separate good art from bad. I commend Rok for wanting to broaden his horizons by learning more about, yes I will say it, the nuts and bolts.

And BTW, Rok, for whatever it may be worth, Wynton thinks Ted Nash is "the bomb". I don't know if you connected the dots, but Ted is 2nd alto in the LCJB and is often featured and has gotten some recent commissions for new works (worth hearing).

*****That is a very strange and illogical question.*****

When I read that, it hit me like a bolt out of the blue!!

THE GOOD LORD IS TESTING ME!!!! Just like Job.

But the real shocker for me, is that not one of our 'pros', commented on the performance of Water Music and Fireworks by the French Orchestra. ESP, the conductor!! What do you think of this guy?

Last Chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27aV-IiQWo

Cheers

Under the heading of: You learn something everyday, I always thought Water Music and Fireworks were written during the same time period, and for the same event. Turns out that Fireworks was written 30 years later. Don't I feel silly.

Cheers

i have been real busy. i will respond to links tonight.