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Coda CP pre-amp vs Rogue Athena Magnum vs ARC LS-12 .Need information

I am looking at a Coda CP pre-amp, and can't find a single review on either their website or online So would like some feedback from owners.

I am also looking at the Rogue Perseus Magnum which I read two reviews  As a side note, also considering Rogue Metis Magnum. The "used" price is good on the Rogue Metis M, but it is  classified as an entry level  pre-amp but still received good reviews as the Magnum version.

ARC LS-12 is a sleeper possibility, was issued in 2001, but received very good reviews  I have  a BAT VK-200 power amp which is outstanding,, So, am looking for the best match up in a pre-amp to bring the system to the next level.   Thank you. 


sunnyjim
sunnyjim OP
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To Cerrot, Thanks for the heads up about the Innersound pre-amp.

To Tim, Thanks for the link to the ebay ad for the Muse.

 As far as the phono stage issue, I am just trying to avoid another box and cable The music looks nice but has an outboarded power supply which is good, however it has only a remote.  Its cosmetics are a bit utilitarian but the price is good compared to Coda CP.  BTW, Bill D. claims Coda  offers a remote for $150.00

Also, thanks for review link on the Sanders pre-amp in Dagogo

BTW, it appears the Muse Signature has been discontinued.  I'll keep you all posted.  Decisions, Decisions!!!!  

timlub
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@sunnyjim 
Hi Jim,
    The CP comes with a basic remote.  The $150 upgrade is larger digital readout remote.
The Sanders is comparable to a Coda 04/Windows Continuum III, it was from around 2004 or so, the CP replaced the CL with added phono, I believe the CP came out in 2012 or 2013.
The Muse is very discontinued, I'm thinking 2001. It is a really nice sounding pre.  I spoke to Kevin Halverson (designer) at one time about this, I believe around 2009, at that time he compared it to the current models Jeff Rowland models.  I liked this pre, but by the time you add a phono, you might as well get the Coda,  I didn't realize that Bill D was the person selling the CP,  you will most likely get a full warranty with that. I looked a bit around Agon for you and came across a CJ Premier 18LS... This is also a nice sounding pre.... Well,  I think this is all i've got for you,  Good Luck,  Your looking at all nice pieces. 
sunnyjim OP
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Looks like you checked out the CJ LS18  or is there a Premier LS-18?? 

I ask because if it is the one now selling for $1395, the seller posted a pix of a very delectable incentive to buy.  I will check out the CJ ads again because I don't recall a Premier LS-18.on sale 

I got the Sander's pre-amp review, but have not read it yet  BTW, I saw the Graham Slee unit in the Music Direct catalogue, but I probably am going to want both MC and MM because I could switch cartridges somewhere down the line. 

One last point about the CJ, LS-18, it is unbalanced, and has a few features  I don't really. need .  However, when I spoke to CJ about this pre-amp 6 weeks ago, the rep claimed it was the best SS pre-amp they ever built. There was a review that raved about its performance in Stereophile by Larry Greenhill posted Dec.22, 2002.  Thanks again for the advice and tips 

sunnyjim OP
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Tim, FYI, There  are several CJ ET2 and ET 3 on sale on AG., and one ET2SE which reviewers and members alike claim the SE version sounds better. 

I would have to assume the ET2 and ET 3 may provide better sound quality than the LS-18 Premier on sale But who knows, it could only  be marginally better except for the SE versions. 

BTW, I checked with CJ about the cost of upgrading  from the ET2 to ET2SE and would be  $2550..00. because they have to disassemble the original ET2 and rebuild it with the upgrade parts, and reassemble it.  Might as well just buy a new ET2SE    Cheers 

timlub
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@sunnyjim 
Hi Jim,  I didn't realize that you were in a budget that high, I was looking at that $1500 & below.  At that price point ($1500 & below), you have best of the best lined up in SS.  I've had tubes in every form in my own system,  but still don't have enough tubed listening experience feel competent in offering real advice.
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