Help, my system sounds lifeless!


Hi, this is my first post.  I rushed putting my system together when i emigrated from the UK to New Jersey.  In fact this site was partly to blame as i was attracted to the amazing  "used" deals!  I bought a pair of Dali Helicon 400 (mark I)  as they passed the WAF.  The rest of the system contains a Belles Soloist Integrated and Simaudio Equinox SE CD player, wireworld platinum eclispe 6 interconnect & Audio Art Cable Classic SC-5 Speaker Cable.  My room maybe partly to blame but generally the system sounds lifeless, with little soundstage (better when i play vinyl).  I am not feeling/falling in love with the speakers and do not like the bass response (which is often reported).  I would like to change the speakers and was wondering if you could help.  I have an extremely large cd collection (and have recently bought a used Lumin D1, but unfortunately not set up yet) covering all kinds of music.  I am thinking 8ohm with better sensitivity would be a better option.  Looking to spend around $3000-4000 used.  Some contenders include Revel F206 or F208, Tannoy DC8 or DC8T, ATC SCM40, JA Pulsars (maybe too much $), PBN Liberty, Aerial 10T (never see them used) but they must have grills as sometimes kids go in the basement.  Maybe Monitors with stands would be better option?  I am hoping the flickr link works so you can see my room (excuse the feet!).  I want to fall in love with my large music collection again!  Looking for good bass & soundstage and speakers that can play all kinds of music (sometimes I'm partial to deep electronic music).  In some ways because my taste is so vast i am not particularly looking for ultra revealing speakers (Nora Jones speakers i think you call them!).  Looking forward to the NY audio show so i can hear some systems.  Thanks for all the help, cheers Paul  https://www.flickr.com/gp/97665913@N06/a5G6d9
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Paul nice feet! :p On a more serious note that looks like a pretty small room or at least a narrow one for floorstanding speakers, no wonder you are have issues with bass response. They seem to be firing straight ahead have you experimented with toe-in yet? In that room I would personally use a pair of standmount monitors, the rest of your gear and cabling looks pretty solid. So take some time mess around with the Dali's and see if you can make is listenable in the meantime you are in the NY/NJ metro area and should have tons of places to audition speakers. Take your time listen and try to buy it right and buy it once. Cheers!
Start with your room acoustics. Good acoustics will outlast every other piece of gear. :)

GIK Acoustics gives great advice and most value components. Courtains, wall hangings behind and on the sides are additional ways to improve the situation.

Once that’s dialed, then make decisions.

Usually adding acoustic treatment in the plane of the imaging you want to enhance is the best idea.

Lastly, you need speakers with really controlled dispersion OR lots of acoustic panels. I mean, it’s a trade off. The narrower the dispersion, the less acoustic materials, more or less.

But that’s a tight spot. Line sources or panels may be much better options. The last thing you want in this case is very wide dispersion speakers. Small horn loaded/wave guide speakers may also work well.

Try crossing your speakers in front of you instead of shooting them straight ahead too.
by the way, I kind of agree with Jond in that your speakers are too big for the space. Narrow dispersion stand-mounts are better ideas, especially if clarity and musicality are what you want. They may also "sound" tighter in the bass due to not aggravating room modes as easily.

Here's a good option

http://www.hsuresearch.com/speakers.html

Best,

Erik