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Legacy Audio Classic HD Speakers with or without Sub

I am considering purchasing the Classic HD speakers and am wondering if a sub will be necessary with them. I currently own the Dynaudio Focus 260 floorstanders (Dual 6.5" midwoofers) with their partnering sub, the Sub 600. Although I've never had a sub before in any system, I do like the extra bass depth it gives.

I've been reading the forums on this site and really haven't read anyone pairing a sub with the Classic HD's. Also, I read one professional review where the Classics were paired with Legacy's own Metro sub but it didn't mention how they sounded without the sub. Finally, I went to the Legacy site and read some posts but nothing about the Classics with a sub.

Please post your experiences with & without a sub(s) paired with the Classic HD's. Are the dual 8" woofers enough to provide sufficient bass without a sub? I'm not a sub freak so I may be able to live without one but as mentioned before the Dynaudio set up sounds nice with one.

Thanks!

routeman21
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kuppe38
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After my demo at the Audio Doctor's I looked at the less expensive Classics you are looking at which I can afford sooner, or saving up for the Focus Signatures, I came with the same conclusion as listed above.

If you can swing it the Focus Signatures are $1,800.00 more expensive and you are getting a lot for the additional money

1: The Signatures use the top of the line Heil AMT Tweeter and AMT Upper Midrange driver. 

2: The Signatures have the larger 10 inch bass drivers and go down to 22hz.

3: The Signatures are taller and throw a bigger soun stage.
routeman21 OP
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Thank you all for suggestions. Initially I was considering the Focus SE's but I believe my room might be too small for the size of them. My room is: 18' 7" X 13' 3" X 7' 5" plus furniture & tables. Also, some ceiling damping. I am able to pull the speakers away from the wall about 2 ft. Side walls are fine. The reason I'm thinking of the Classics first is because of their size based on the relatively same dimensions of the Dynaudio Focus 260's. I like the Dynaudio's and their matching sub but with their relatively low sensitivity I have some edginess when turned up louder and I believe I will reduce or eliminate that edginess with the Classics due to their higher sensitivity & 3-way crossover.
kennythekey
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If one's speakers got the goods, then a sub(s) is not necessary (IMO), unless the room is not set up right for those speakers. My solution to add subs recently, was to add fill-in, because I could not provide closed corners for my speakers that benefited from that. This is working for me now in a big way, but the design of the subs were also an important factor. I'm two channel analog, so no goal to produce home theater sound.
Kenny
mtrot
642 posts
 
When looking at Legacy speakers, and considering bass performance and sub or no sub, bear in mind that Legacy measure pretty flat, i.e., unlike some other speakers, Legacy does not boost the mid bass.  Some companies boost the mid bass, so as to give more of that "slam", but that is not necessarily accurate, and may give the impression of more/better bass than the speaker actually has.  So, while the Classic HD go down to around 30Hz, you may still end up wanting a sub, but you could do that later. 

OTOH, as mentioned above, the Signature SE is certainly the way to go if you can swing it.  Think about it this way:  if you go with the Classics, and then end up buying a subwoofer, you could have applied the cost of the sub to a set of Signature SE!


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audiotroy
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If is is of any help our demo showroom which contains the Focus SE is 17 long by 14 wide with a 10 foot ceiling and the speakers sound fantastic in it.  The Focus Signature is the best Legacy speaker for the size and the money and they also represent the greatest value.

If you are anywhere near the East Coast you should come in and give them a listen. 
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