Jazz for aficionados

Thanks for a choice clip Acman, I'll peruse all my Larry Coryell records tonight.

***** I am also relieved that you liked it since the significance of George Lewis in the history of this music is huge and anyone who doesn’t undertand this has no business claiming to be a jazz "aficionado". *****


How Dare You!!   You disrespect the contributions of folks like Lewis everyday on this thread.   Stick with the folks you promote.

Cheers

Frogman, you make the most "ludicrous" statements of anybody on this thread.

"As far as I am concerned there is no room on a thread like this for making a comment "exclusively" for a specific poster; especially when others have been part of the same discussion".

We respond back and forth to different individuals all the time, and I responded to a comment that Rok made. Since when do you determine the rules of engagement on this thread? I just said "Your right" because I could see that you were about to go into another of your very long "diatribes" and I thought I might head it off at the pass.

Rok made the statement about the media, and I responded; that should have been the end of that.

In support of your position, I respect the heck out of Orpheus' and Rok's depth of knowledge about and enthusiasm for "old school jazz" but seems needlessly restrictive to draw a circle around that and dismiss content that falls outside it...regardless of wardrobe.

While I most certainly like a lot of "old school jazz", I most certainly do not dismiss content that falls outside of it...regardless of wardrobe. Seems to me Ghosthouse, that you are using Frogman's evaluations; especially when you say "Rok, and Orpheus"; we are not twins.

I was just listening to this by "Chico Hamilton" and wandering how you, Ghosthouse, would classify it?


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI7T9EMZGYc


"Old school", is that a type of jazz, or jazz that's bounded by certain dates?

If you say all jazz before 2015 is "old school", that would most certainly mean that I'm "Old school".


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdMnwERjG0&list=PLF2393B9681E9451A


Kick it Chico!



Enjoy the music.

This post is in honor of Larry Coryell who besides being a leader, was a sideman with many of my favorite jazz musicians; one of them was Chico Hamilton.


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHP6NzrFrR0


Larry was creative enough to excel in many different styles, bop, fusion, and just straight ahead jazz. Here he is live, late in his career; kicking some fusion.



            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7E3Q8SmzTE


"Beyond Category" is the title of this, and that's just what it is;



              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_xqFL9XKAw


That guy could really pick a guitar.


Enjoy the music.


             

Well, as I said previously, it is obvious (as it has been for a long time) that some of us live in different universes as concerns music and other matters; honest self-awareness, or lack thereof, of what is behind our respective motivations for saying what we each say here being one of the most glaring examples. Let’s first, and once again, point out what it is that started this most recent "bru-ha", to use O-10’s expression.

I was included and involved in commentary by O-10 in an inappropriate and provocative manner; something that he has yet to acknowledge. Of course, this came on the heels of an acknowledgment by him that, yes, it was inappropriate to address posters "exclusively" during a general discussion. I fully expected there to be fallout for my temerity in pointing this out to him as there always is in similar situations. I was right. O-10, you nor anyone here gets to decide when "it should be the end of that" as long as the dialogue remains respectful; that’s all. Besides, why then was it not "the end of that" for you?

Rok, your indignation re my George Lewis comment is very telling. Classic, go for the indignation when one has nothing substantive to say. What is most telling is that you failed to see the humor/sarcasm in that comment and chose instead to see it as some sort of violation or intrusion into what you consider your purview, that of keeper of all that is "Nawlins" and "Roots" in jazz. Of course, all the time ignoring the frequency with which I have posted and written about early personalities in jazz and their relevance to its history and these discussions; more than anyone here (including you). You think that by acknowledging and, God forbid, the "new" one "disrespects" the "old". Nothing could be further from the truth and this notion violates one of the most basic tenets in jazz and any creative art form; a tenet that the very folks you feel need your protection and indignation held dear. How’s that for irony? As I have reminded you many times eventhough it is obvious, I have posted and written about every era and style in jazz. However, since you can’t relate to my universe, a universe that sees jazz (all art) as a continuum you keep trying to relegate me to status of promoter of "new jazz" or as you used (?) to say "noise". The psychology behind all this is really rich and its probably best if I stop here and hope for the best.

O-10, I have nothing new to add to what I have already tried to convey to you re our recent exchanges. I do think that if this thread is going to get out of its rut and not just "plod along" the bs needs to be called out. It’s really all pretty obvious and, as always, I am moving on; I suggest you do the same. As always, hoping we can do better moving forward.

Regards.

Btw, how does one dance the "floy-floy"? Would love to see that.