Looking for a used AUDIOPHILE AV Receiver


I am in the market to purchase a used audiophile AV Receiver. Price range maximum $800 for a used unit, the less the better.

The most important factor is the audiophile sound quality, sheer musicality that the unit provides, not the features. It should also have HDMI 1.4 at least and also Speaker A/B switch would be a good option as I have 2 different pair of speakers in the front, one for HT (Definitive Technologie BP 7006) and the other for music Magnepan MMG.    

I know some brands like: NAD, ARCAM, ANTHEM, MARANTZ making good audiophile AV Receivers.

What would be the best option for a used unit?

Thanks for any advice.

 


thxbest
Magnum Dynalab made a couple of high end receivers at one time.  Not sure if they still do.
THX best - I think that most AVR's use the zone 2 functionality simply because all AV receivers are a minimum of 5 channels and usually 7.1 or 7.2 in which case if you have that many speakers connected having another set for speakers A/B wouldn't make sense really, and would in fact require an additional pair of power amplifiers for the two additional channels.

Since we're going down this road - have you considered getting a standalone preamp/ processor and a separate multi channel amp?  Would pretty much give you the best of both worlds, and there are some killer deals on prior generation preamps/ processors that would give you all the inputs and routing options that you could dream of.  In your price range a used Onkyo Pro PRSC-5509 would be a reasonable choice as would others.

The bad news here obviously is that you would then need a multi channel up to run it through to your speakers.  

The good news is that processors and their AVR siblings depreciate immensely every time a new format video or decoding format comes out so at least you you would have the freedom to upgrade the processor when the time comes and still have an amp that would never really become obsolete.

Wish there were a simple silver bullet here.

Greg

I agree with the idea that there's simply no such thing as an "audiophile" AV receiver in the classic sense.  It's difficult to get true "audiophile" in a receiver, when compared to separates.

The only way you'll be able to get separate processor and multi-channel amp (if require HDMI 1.4) is to look for an Emotiva UMC-200.  You can sometimes get that for about $400.  But then once you add in the multi-channel amp and interconnects, you are already looking at over $1k anyways.

I have not heard any of the receivers, but from everything I have read and seen, I would first look to choose a Marantz receiver because of it's use of discrete HDAM analog circuits.  Look for a receiver in the last 3 generations of products.  If you go too old, you'll get the older generation HDAM circuits which are warmer and slower.  Then look towards the most wattage receiver you can afford (the power supply makes all the difference here in sound quality).

Arcam has had a lot of reliability problems (google this).  I think I remember also reading that Arcam had a high failure rate.  I suspect it's because the Arcam engineers chose poor components (capacitors/diodes/etc.) or their physical layout of components put elements sensitive to heat failure very close to high-heat sections.  I'm not entirely sure here, but please research Arcam on this if you are serious.

I have heard NAD is very nice, but I have also heard that it's very warm sounding.  It's great if you're after that sound signature.  I'm not sure of the sonic signature of new NAD products.

I heard an Arcam a couple of years ago, recently after auditioning Ayre and Audio Research.

I have to say, I wouldn't be too upset if I had to trade all of my gear for one of them. Sounded really nice, close to the Ayre's darkness/quiet but also detail and natural air.

Best,

E
Some select comments

(1) I would highlight that ONKYO AVRs as a likely must-to-avoid. It’s HDMI and related motherboard failures are legendary, to the point that the company grudgingly admitted the same. Here is a sampler epic lengthy thread of bad experiences

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29836&hilit=Onkyo%2C+another+one+...

(2) ARCAM’s AVR problems were not a simple design deficiency and not any pure engineering FUHBAR. Rather it shared a common issue affecting most AVRs since they were outsourced to be built in the cheapest-you-can-go arena and that triggered the problems: made in China.

Thus was regrettably poor Chi-Fi AVR build quality that was twofold: Cheap quality components subbed in at the ChiFi plants and dodgy assembly workmanship. NOTE: The HDMI boards eventually fail on just about every ChiFi AVR.

It got so bad that ARCAM capitulated and moved back to the UK  its top FMJ AVR unit production initially outsourced to China in face of mounting warranty claims .

The "top" build quality AVRs are regrettably uber-expensive, all north of $6k ( e,g ARCAM AVR 750, KRELL, CARY etc.) they perform top-shelf but AVRs change their CODECs and current models quickly become obsolete . The high buy-in cost in the face of rapid obsolescence make them a questionable buy for many of us.