Pass Labs

 Does Nelson pass have anything to do with pass labs now?   I didn't think so. I consider him  One of the good guys who gives back to the DIY community,  not one of these con artists who is trying to make millions on fancy casework 

Mesch, I agree in general, but  MANY Americans  make less money today.adjusted for inflation, than they did 30 years ago .

So, has anyone actually listened to these amps?  Impressions over lower level Pass or in comparison to our lowly, but still 1%, Halos, First Watts, Carys, etc.?

George came close with a note about Gryphon.

@mesch--I'd submit that the best time to have been in the market for high-end gear was probably 2009-2011, at least in the US.  I missed "opportunities" to pick up gear at firesale prices on the fear and unfortunate circumstances of others.

@jj77,
Funny how all hobbies and our progress in life changes our perspective. When we are younger and do not have the cash to blow, we feel even a $100 cable is a rip-off. When we do better in life and have a good disposable income we feel that a $2000 cable is a very good investment.
So nothing wrong with $85k amps. Forget $85k amps, nothing wrong with $200k amps as well. When you have the resources and the designer has the ability to build cost-no-object machines, everything is a very good investment. You live only once, so why not enjoy it? None of us complain about a $2.5 million Bugatti.

Some in their right mind do .