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$85.000 & 65.000 Amps  The extreme high gone nuts
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Qu'ils mangent de la brioche.  That's the problem with the existence of high-priced luxury items?

To not "complain" about an out-of-reach luxury item means one is not in his/her "right mind?"

Seems excessive, regardless of one's wealth, but I'm not sure why there is reason to "complain."  I'll complain if someone hits me with one at 200mph.

More reasonable to complain about the hyper-miler driving that ubiquitous hybrid in the fast lane in moderate traffic and doing more harm to the environment by causing congestion but justifying it to him/herself because it's not directly coming from his/her tailpipe.
Good things come to those who wait.  I've been trading up since the mid 80s. Started with kits and low priced gear. Now have a system I could never afford all at once -- including Passlabs XA mono amps and top of the line Cary tube preamp. Total cost over 30 years is actually quite modest. Imagine spreading car payments over that period of time.
And the stereo was sounding better and better throughout the whole time.
With Nelson Pass help and open use if his first watt schematics 
I build a premium part reference FIRST watt F-6
A dual mono amp 2x of everything  and still 50wpc into 4 ohms.
By far the most helpful amplifier expert to the DIY, community .

Not the case of course with Pass, the manufacturing of their case alone is several hundred dollars.  A FEW THOUSAND MAYBE  you can't make their chassis for a few hundred.


bdp24
2,254 posts
04-25-2017 7:11pm

Au contraire Schubert, I have been paying attention, and I was indeed speaking of the U.S. as a country. We all know the rich have been getting richer and the poor poorer since Reagan instituted his failed trickle-down economic policies.

That is a false statement:

During the Regan administration his policies had corporate revenues doubling and tripling which in turn lead to the largest economic growth, increase hiring or jobs, increase in pay, and all people made more money.  Do your homework please.  The rich always get richer because they invest and take risk to increase their wealth.


I’ve seen the stats from around the world. Swedes are a pretty contented bunch, even with their very high taxes. At least they get something for them!


I guess then they are happy being the new rape capital of the world according to CNN!


 My sisters daughter lives in Germany, married to a German, and they too are happy with their system.


Really, $20 billion spent on immigration and it is considered to be a disaster in Germany.  CNN again.


I don’t know many Americans who are; in a few decades our educational system has become the joke of the world, our health care system is a mess, we are falling behind in moving into a future-based economy---Coal? Are you kidding me?!


America spends more money on education than some countries have in total so it is not the money that is at fault.  Health care costs are going up and choices are going down unless you have no income and can get free health care, the rest of us are paying for that benefit.


Coal while not the best alternative to most of us, unless live in West Virginia where there are no jobs for the miners and their families or business alternative opportunities for the majority of the older working class.  I was in WV three weeks ago, one of the poorest states.  Let them starve you bet.


As far as mega buck products, try and manufacture something.  The milled solid aluminum chassis start at $1K and up.  The box and packing materials cost about $150 each.  Pay your 35% taxes, liability insurance, etc.  Parts costs are not cheap unless you are using the lowest priced capacitors, resistors, transformers, etc.  Design a chassis with all of the necessary holes punched out, yeah that can take from 3 to 10 prototypes, etc.  Then when it is all ready, advertise, get reviews, find dealers to carry your product line for free, etc.


Many people IMO have never heard what these high priced components can deliver.  Go spend time at a reviewers home and learn what they hear and how their system sounds.  You won't get there with most of the cheaper level products.  But this is a matter of ones own choice.  You can get really great sound if you can build a system with lower priced components it can be done but that usually takes time.


Most people don't know what their missing in their system until they experience the change or difference.  I ones had a well know preamp that I thought was really good for the money I paid for it.  THen I had another well know mfg preamp and that is when I realized what my preamp lacked.  I had to experience the difference because I did not think my preamp could be outperformed in the areas it now lacked.  I also modify, repair and build components.  Recently I told one of my first customers that the new version of the product I build for him was better by my new design.  He said how much better and I said 100% improvement.  He told me not possible.  I drove out to see him three weeks ago.  within the first 10 minutes he said, yeah you are right.


So my point being it costs real money to make a statement product or one that the mfg feels is better than the competition.  Research and development is expensive.  You make many prototypes to find something you think is very good, and the cost of parts is not cheap. Experience is what most people need to have before they make general statements.


Sorry for the rant, Happy Listening everyone!

bdp24 not picking on you in anyway and I am not dem or rep just a person who understands economic polices and and has studied economics, budgets, etc,. that the government indicates on its website.