Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?


The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
pubul57
Crazy looking speakers.  The Belles came first and the amp followed.  About 3w is about right and I listen with the Lightspeed at about 1/3 volume.  Very efficient.  The DAC is handmade with the following as some particulars. Very interesting though.

 DAC 2.0SE features:

1.Tube DEM clock (E180F, EAA91)
2.CS8414 SPDIF receiver 24/96
3.Shunt voltage regulators based on the germanuim transistors. The scheme has been improved and has a superior thermal stability.
4. Vintage and modern audio components are used:allen bradley,philips,telefunken,
Capacitors:Black Gate (2pc FK series,1pc PK series),panasonic pureism,Audio note standard (2pc) and Audio Note Kaisei(3pc) 220mfX160v,470mfx25v
5.Board covered with gold and a special varnish for best sound 
6.Stranded wires composed of vintage copper wires taken from klangfilm, telefunken, siemens sound equipment
7. I/U convertor based on the special gold plated low noise vintage transistor. Because of this fact, an excellent reproduction of quiet sounds, at -60.-80db level
8. PIO output capacitors HYDRA from 60th 
9. Shortest signal path, the tube output stage with the low output impedance (5687,EZ80).
10.NOS mode(non oversampling)
11.Genuine TDA1541R1 philips factory
12.Siemens film capacitors in the DEM cells
13.Spdif receiver voltage stabilizer based on unique powerful vintage transistor with a semiconductor crystal on a thin gold basis in the copper case.
14.Separate power transformers for digital and analog sections. Separate transformer for DEM clock.
15.Telefunken choke from 30th in the 5687 power supply.
 

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Best way of reproducing pcm redbook cd, with R2R Mutibit converters. Man after my own heart.


This intrigues me, as I'm right into zero feedback I/V stages for current output dacs/. Any more info on this, circuit perhaps
I/V converter based on the special gold plated low noise vintage transistor

Cheers George

My review….. As an ex-owner of many hi-end audiophile hardware from speakers such as Kharma, Dynaudio, Vandersteen, Magnapan, Sonus Faber, to amplifier such as Audio Research, Plinus, Rogue, etc I am experience and qualify to review hifi component, up to S$50K if putting a value to a piece of hardware means anything to you.

Lightspeed is a product that appeal mostly to the diy community. By saying diy community I don't mean only those who seek to build an attenuator only but also those who are constantly searching for tweaks to their hardware such as Caps and tube roll or optimising an amplifier circuit. The writer is one such person.

LS did no active advertising and I chance upon the LDR circuitry in a diy forum only recently while seeking to improve my channel imbalance with the Alps variable resistor swipe type volume control. I assembled a 23 steps attenuator and realised my Alps variable resistor was indeed a bottleneck to my system. The 23 steps attenuator was like from winter to spring in my system. But I believe much can still be done to improve the performance.

Than came the LDR attenuator. A simple and logical concept of using an isolated LED light intensity circuitry to vary resistance in another circuit hence producing a clean signal through the amplifier circuit resulting in crisp, clear, smooth, transparent and quiet layers of music only limited by the quality of the equipment downstream to the LS. The use of the stereotype audiophile jargon such as soundstage height/width, imaging, timbre, etc... is to me irrelevant in describing the LS. I believe an attenuator's aim is not to have a sound but to vary the signal level and pass-through effortlessly and not impeding the potential of your equipment. Any improvement gain is due to your equipment and LS is just an enabler.

But I will certainly get bomb to claim the LS do not have a sound because the signals do run through some circuitry before it gets transmitted to your equipment. My point here is that if the LS produce a negative effects to your setup or swing towards certain attributes that is not to your liking, most likely the cause is a mismatch in impedance or you have a coloured attenuator and not the LS being inferior.

Is the LS a plug and play component? No and maybe. First you need to make sure you don't have an impedance mismatch issue which is rare but not impossible. I have also a tube pre and SS power system and I lost the much preferred "tube sound" by putting the LS in place of my tube pre. This is not to say that it is terrible but not my preferred sound. I have now bypass my tube pre 23 step attenuator and use it as an over glorified tube buffer. If you are using a passive preamp the LS is a no brainer upgrade. If you have and like your SS pre, you will likely like the LS in place of your SS pre. Comparing my Alps to the LS is like winter to summer. It doesn't sound thin or dry on the contrary to some who have reported their experience. I recommend it highly if it fits you bill.

A working LS circuit is available from a diy forum if you are a diy-er or are hell bend for saving up for other upgrade and only if you can find a match pair of LDR out of the many required for a project. I believe I can also make one from the available info from the internet but I choose to support the inventor who is passionate and generous enough to share his circuit and know how to the diy community in the numerous forum in the internet. His generosity proved that he is not a money grabbing person and in today's world such character is few and far between.

The LS is where I stop my search for a better alternative for now. Buy it if it fits your bill before you consider an interconnect upgrade, tube roll, power cord upgrade, component upgrade. Most likely it is cheaper than other conventional upgrade path. DIY if you want and George will throw you his float when you are drowning. I hope the Lightspeed reach commercial success in a huge way in the future not that George care if it did or not.

 PS: I am not affiliated to the Lightspeed product.

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Thanks for that in-depth review water111 .

If any reading who have the skills wish to construct one for themselves as water111 did, instead of purchasing the ready made Lightspeed Attenuator, my first original post is here to do it with.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analog-line-level/80194-lightspeed-attenuator-new-passive-preamp.html#post924390
PS: you may have to join to see all the attachments, circuit diagrams ect.
 
I’m always available on this Audiogon Lightspeed thread for any help you may need,
PS: I do not sell kits or parts as they are all available for diyers to get themselves.

Cheers George