Initial impression of the Nuprime ST-10 amp


I have a very fine McCormack DNA .05 Deluxe amp, a Don Sachs 6SN7 preamp, driving my Spatial Audio M4 Turbo S open baffle speakers and today swapped the McCormack amp for the ST10 amp.  Right out of the box, the ST10 is quite an amazing amp.  It is very powerful and yet quite delicate in its rendering of sound. To my ears, it is somewhat tipped-up in the HF compared to the McCormack amp, and at this point seems to give up a bit of the LF rendering of the sound to the McCormack amp, but overall, it has lots of inner detail and a sublime mid-range.  It has not a bit of harshness or dryness that I have heard with earlier Class D amps... it is very musical with the sound flowing effortlessly.   I will post my impressions after it has been run-in for a week. My initial impression is that for $1600, this is a very fine amplifier.  
whitestix
I got the Red Dragon class D amp today and it sounds very good right out of the box, although not as fleshed out as the Nuprime and  bit sibilant, but only slightly so.  It has an unsightly case, as others have observed.
 Still,it might be difficult to discern the Nuprime amp from the Red Dragon sonically at the moment, but I will do that comparison with 50-60 hours on the Red Dragon to be fair.  Notwithstanding my enjoyment of my Dennis Had EL84 tube amp, the two class D amps are quite amazing in their power and performance in such a small package.  By analogy, I think that one type of amp is like a Chardonnay and the other is like a Cabernet. I like both, but neither exclusively.

At the end of the day, I think one trades crystal clarity of the music, LF control, and dead silent background with the class D amps for the gloriously expansive, and palpable mid-range bloom of a tube amp. Neither can completely do what the other can do, yet.  Gents, at the price point of any of my amps, there is no such thing as the “absolute sound”.  Tube biasing and running big honking KT88’s in the summer heat of Sacramento would tilt me to the class D amp, but the Had amp with its four EL 84 tubes runs reasonably cool and needs no biasing, a hassle that I disliked with my Harmon Kardon gear.  My Spatial Audio Holograms are ~93 db efficient and it bears noting that the 5 wpc Had tube amp is no less engaging than that the 250-wpc Red Dragon amp. I run the volume pot on my Don Sachs tube preamp at 12:00 with the Had amp, while the volume pot runs at 9:00 for the same SPL with both the class D amps.  I have plenty of gain with any of the amps.    Obviously, if you have much less efficient speakers, my discussion of the comparison with my Had amp would be irrelevant to your situation, but not with respect to the sonic differences of a tube vs. class D amp.   My ears are 63 years old so take that into account. I would encourage any of you readers to compare, contrast, or refute my impressions.

The appeal of class D amplification is very easy to understand for the reasons described above.  If 10 years ago I somebody had told me that class D amps would sound this excellent, I would have been dubious. Yet, to my ears, such sonic performance is easily attainable for less than $2K, or a few hundred more with the Channel Island Audio mono-blocks, which I have heard and are excellent. Several audio companies have outstanding class D integrated amps, including NAD, that provide outstanding “one component” performance.  
Just my take,
Mark
Mark,

There is no perfect Amp at least I haven't found one yet.
They all have their own sound characteristics as you are finding out.
That's why I like trying different ones and comparing and most of them I could live with and use a long time and be happy with.

You may want to give the red dragon at least 100 hrs or more before you judge It's true character.You did get a S-500 is that correct.

Red dragon doesn't have the best looking cases that's how they keep their price down compared to others, I have a black one and It's not as noticeable for me.

As I tell a lot of people you need to figure out what kind of sound presentation you desire and go from there.That's the best way that I know how to describe It.

Best,

Kenny.
Right you are, Kenny.  I will run in the new amp for the requisite hours and then compare them.  I do have the S500 and like you, the black case is no bother to my eyes.  The ST10 has a main on/off switch on the back and a standby on/off switch on the front.  It is a bit of a bother having to reach to the back end to switch it on and off, but that is a trifling matter. 

I reckon in time the class D amps might be able to mimic the euphonic sound of tube amps and keep the speed and LF control.  My pal has the Nuforce/Nuprime Ref 9V3 mono blocks and for them he has retired his high end Krell amp, much preferring the REF 9.  Now, even further up the food chain of Nuprime is the Ref 18 and 20 mono blocks and I would expect that they are incrementally better than the ST10 I have.  Cheers, Mark
Whitestix,

I can relate to you about what you are saying about the various Amp differences.

"I reckon in time the class D amps might be able to mimic the euphonic sound of tube amps and keep the speed and LF control. "

There is some of the upper models that can do this to some degree at a price.There is a very fine line in design of class d to have these kinda qualities,mainly you would have to add distortions and colorations to get those euphonic tube like qualities but then you lose clarity,detail,inner detail and the perception of speed and LF control.

Class d has certainly come a long way but I kinda look at like analog vs digital,we have had digital music for a long time know and today we have better dac's than ever but It still sounds different than analog.Now don't get me wrong I enjoy both formats equally.

Maybe It's the same with speakers,there is some qualities I like about OB's but I never have had a pair and since moving in to our smaller house I don't have the right room for them anyway or panels either.It's just a trade off I quess,no perfect speaker either but we do have some very good ones.

Best,

Kenny.
@whitestix So, you kept the Nuprime or Red Dragon? :)

same question for @kdude66