Nutty - Your observation as to the Cardas GR is directly the opposite to my experience. I have an all Ayre system with Vandersteen speakers, and there was nothing worse on my system than was Cardas - especially the GR. Ayre's own cable is Cardas drived which made me buy the Ayre cable (sent it back) then the whole line of Cardas (all sent back).....just plain muddy and wrong in my system.