Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
Today's Listen:

Charles Mingus -- CHANGES TWO

These two CDs, Changes One and Changes Two, demonstrate that in order to hear Modern, Progressive or Avant-Garde Jazz, one need not listen to current day, wannabes(noise makers).

This is very coherent and enjoyable modern music, done by the greatest Master of them all. It will grab you, and hold you from start to finish. If you love Jazz, you gotta have both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upfBe_sGASY

I always thought Ellington was the greatest Jazz composer. Hmmmmmm. As NOMAD said,"I must re-evaluate".

Cheers

Rok, each day I'm being made aware of how many killers I don't have. Besides being prolific, Mingus is one of the most unusual composers. Frogman's opinion would carry the most weight in regard to the question of whether or not Ellington is the most important composer; that's because my opinion is purely subjective, while he views it from a historical, as well as a musicians point of view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB6GkA54n_Q

This is about as original as you can get.

Enjoy the music.
*****Frogman's opinion would carry the most weight in regard to the question of whether or not Ellington is the most important composer; *****

I disagree. Any person who has been an Aficionado as long as you have, and has seen / heard Trane in person, knew Miles and his Aunt, has all the Jazz cred needed to decide who is the greatest Jazz composer. :)

Besides, ALL opinions are subjective, Otherwise, they would be facts.

Cheers
Today's Listen:

Branford Marsalis -- TRIO JEEPY

You listen to this CD and you smile. This music is so infectious. Have a lot of his stuff on LP. He is the older brother, I wonder why he is not, THE ONE? But Wynton is more than just a player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUJWSjqMx6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWSKRbJkjPw

Cheers
O-10, the answer to the question "who is the greatest jazz composer?", as you correctly point out, should be approached from a historical perspective; and, like the essence of jazz itself, will not be entirely devoid of, at least, a certain amount of subjectivity.

This question smacks of the "KOB vs SE" debate. Is one the greatest because we happen to prefer the music on one or the other; or, is it the greatest because, in spite of our preference for one music or the other, the work had the most impact and influence in shaping the direction of the music as a whole (historical perspective). In the case of "KOB vs SE", if we remove the tendency to disqualify it because it HAPPENS to also be (God forbid!) an audiophile favorite, there is no question that KOB had infinitely more impact on the state of jazz than SE did.

There is no question that both Ellington and Mingus were great jazz composers (probably the two greatest); and both extremely influential. Interestingly, in spite of the tendency in some camps to both promote the idea that the "great unwashed" dictate what is good or not, and then conveniently abandon this agenda when it suits, I think that in this question we have a fine example of when the "unwashed masses" get it
right: Ellington reigns supreme! Ask the average music listener (even the average citizen) who Ellington was and who Mingus was. I think the results of the survey would be pretty obvious. The average person might even be able to name an Ellington tune. A Mingus tune? Unlikely.

Ellington was not only a great composer whose compositions (along with Strayhorn) have become "standards" (there's that pesky word again), he was a key influence in the development of Big Band writing which shaped an entire era, was a brilliant orchestrator who pioneered the idea of writing with the individual players' sound and style (an idea used later by Mingus); he also excelled at symphonic, gospel and soundtrack writing. In spite of all his excellence and influence, Mingus did not have such a broad scope as a musician nor composer. I think it can fairly be said that had there been no Ellington, jazz would not be quite the same today. When one considers the developmental timelines of the music during which both Duke and Mingus were active one has to wonder wether the same can be said of Mingus to the same extent. Mingus is often referred to as "the heir apparent to Ellington" and I think that pretty much sums it up.

Now, for a more subtle and potentially interesting perspective via the thoughts of Mingus himself:

http://mingusmingusmingus.com/mingus/what-is-a-jazz-composer

And on Ellington:

http://www.npr.org/2008/11/19/97193567/duke-ellington-the-composer-pt-1