Fuses fuses fuses


Ok, this is about fuses

1- a standard Bussman fuse is UL approved. Are any "high end" fuses UL approved?

2- do any component manufacturers supply their gear with any of the usual suspects of high end fuses as opposed to a standard Bussman?

3- let's say fuses do make a difference. Given incoming power is AC, why could fuses be directional? 

Not meaning to light any fires here- 

thanks in advance 
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It seems no matter what is posted is simply overlooked so as to fit one's narrative. 

High rupturing fuses are not only better made but better in their application in audio gear and therein lies the rub. 

Google it.

Why is it that every other part of audio can be improved but not the fuse?

Yes, it's overpriced but what isn't? The same arguments have been used for cables and whatnot. Gone are the days of cheap glass tubes with cheap wire and end caps. Get over it.

All the best,
Nonoise

cerberus79
Has the purpose of a fuse been lost ? How it is designed to work ? By design there is no directionality in a fuse. it is simply designed to open in an overcurrent situation. If it was directional in relation to the current passing through it would be a diode.

You have to admit there is some amount of irony in the fact (oops, there’s that word again!) that the HiFi Tuning fuses come with the diode symbol on them. Obviously fuses are not really acting like diodes in the sense they work only in one direction, it’s just to remind the user that the fuse sound better one way than the other. Besides we already know all wire is directional, not by design but by necessary process of manufacturer. Metal crystal like copper is not inherently directional physically or electrically, only when it’s drawn into wire. Make sense?

You might ask, Has the purpose of an amplifier been lost? How is it deigned to work? Shouldn't all amplifiers sound the same?



georgehifi

"And this thread is only about fuses."

If it were "just " about fuses, this thread wouldn’t even have to go over a few intelligent technical posts.

This is more about some here who want to make out that $$$ fuses have some hidden magic (voodoo) to be found within, with an answer to the holy grail of great audio sound, nothing more, nothing less.

Cheers George

But, Georgie old bean, I haven’t seen an intelligent technical post from you here. I have seen intelligent technical posts from others. What’s up with all the angst and denial? One supposes it’s possible you simply can’t follow logical technical arguments.



nonoise

It seems no matter what is posted is simply overlooked so as to fit one’s narrative.

High rupturing fuses are not only better made but better in their application in audio gear and therein lies the rub.

Google it.

Why is it that every other part of audio can be improved but not the fuse?

Yes, it’s overpriced but what isn’t? The same arguments have been used for cables and whatnot. Gone are the days of cheap glass tubes with cheap wire and end caps. Get over it.

>>>>>Actually, I don’t think one need look any further than the simple fact that the wire in the fuse is a metal alloy that’s designed to melt at a certain temperature that’s determined according to where the fuse is to be used. So all the highly technical terminology like high rupturing or whatever is irrelevant. One trusts the fuse employs high conductivity end caps and proper solder for attaching the (high conductivity) wire. Plus whatever else one deems necessary. See below paragraph.

What is probably not obvious is the fuse is just sitting there, vulnerable to magnetic fields, electromagnetic waves and vibration. That’s really where the aftermarket fuses have come into their own and why they surpass stock fuses, all stock fuses, in sonic performance. Regardless of how one tries to pump up stick fuses with colorful language. Glass is not completely taboo either as seen in the Audio Magic Beeswax fuse, which uses a stock glass fuse upon which to construct the audiophile Beeswax fuse. It doesn’t require a degree in rocket science to appreciate why aftermarket fuses are superior to the run of the mill stock fuses. That’s why we see vibration control fluids, ceramic bodies, Graphene and other innovations in fuses. Fuses, even fancy fuses, are still vulnerable to magnetic fields but I guess that’s a story for another day.




Actually, I enjoy reading George's posts.  I see his tending towards brevity versus being long winded as a plus.