Jazz for aficionados

Thanks for your comments, O-10. I like clarity; it works for me and I think it’s something very positive to strive for in any interaction. For me there is always room for a request for explanation or, as I am trying to do as I write this, to further explain oneself; all done with the best intentions since it seems to me that this is the way to meaningful discourse. So having said that and for the sake of clarity this is why I made the comment re the name use:

First, there is no indication that I can see that your post was intended for Alex only; especially since you addressed both of us in your post. Secondly, I agree with you that words have different meanings to different folks, but the term souljazz is a generally accepted name for a specific style, I think of so,etching 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_jazz

I think these details matter as the music is discussed and seems to me that it’s always better to be on the same or similar page.

Much more importantly, I am glad to see that you are well enough to post. I hope you continue to feel better and look forward to you being back "full time". Regards.

Well, things now certainly look more like the 'plain talk' that we have  here usually.

This album comes to my mind, Jimmy Smith's 'Plain Talk', with Blue Mitchell, J.McLean and Ike Quebec...

Recorded in 1960.not released until 1968. Perhaps not the type of music you would expect just by looking the names on the cover...

https://youtu.be/lnGBpc3mq1s

I like plain talk and I like "Plain Talk"; thanks, Alex.  Also, a pretty good example of early "soul jazz" with the Hammond B3 featured.  Aside from being an enjoyable listen, I find this cut interesting for a couple of reasons.  The first reason goes to what I think you mean when you say "Perhaps not the type of music you would expect just by looking the names on the cover...".  Mitchell and McLean (alto and not credited on YouTube) are beboppers all the way and their facility with faster tempos and extended solos highlight the "limitations" of Quebec who was much more of a traditionalist with a sound that was less modern and which evoked the swing and blues players.  The other reason is just speculation on my part and goes to what you point out re the date of release; recorded in 1960, but not released until 1968.   Maybe strictly a business decision due to the peak in popularity of the style in the late 60s.  From the Wiki article on "soul jazz":

**** Soul jazz developed in the late 1950s, reaching public awareness with the release of The Cannonball Adderley Quintet in San Francisco.[4][5] Cannonball Adderley noted: "We were pressured quite heavily by Riverside Records when they discovered there was a word called 'soul'. We became, from an image point of view, soul jazz artists. They kept promoting us that way and I kept deliberately fighting it, to the extent that it became a game."[6] While soul jazz was most popular during the mid-to-late 1960s ****

Ike Quebec can be divided into "early" Ike, and Ike just before he died. Early on he was almost R&B, but switched to a very "Soulful" sound that was in no way related to "Soul Jazz', which is why I prefer individual definitions as opposed to "Wiki" definitions.

Correct me if I'm wrong Alex, but I believe you were referring to "jazz with soul" as opposed to Wiki "Soul jazz" when you referred to Jimmy Smith.

While Ike Quebec is jazz with soul, he was never "Soul jazz". There are many different sounds that can be called "Soul Jazz"; so many that I prefer the individual 'aficionado's definition of the term. How about some "jazz Funk".


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBTSrD42QY



This is "new jazz"; meaning more in fashion now.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jirf4bPO5c


I suppose variety is the spice of life; Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Something Blue.











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Dave, you may have or know this recording.  One of my faves by the great Johnny Hodges; this time in a smaller ensemble setting:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLH_eiHy0GDN04PZM-WU_FImyFOPgFcQZ6&v=i8Irfl3gNkI

For geeks only 😉 and anyone anyone interested in this sort of thing.  Probably the most beautiful saxophone I have ever seen.  Held it in my hands for a minute at the shop where it was being overhauled.  This custom instrument is a work of art and a testament to the stature of the player; instrument makers don't do work like this for just anyone:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad_NFvmyPvA