Audio Research


Hello
Is offered an Audio Research L15 for about 1300 $.
Has a pair of Audio Wilson Cube speakers and a pair of mono blocks that I intended to use.
What do you think about the Arc L15 is the sound competitive with newer prizes for the same money?
titus1
Rather than buy an old used Audio Research, why not try something like the Schiit Freya for $699?  It is balanced, tubed and if it is as over achieving as the DACs, should sound extremely good. 

http://www.schiit.com/products/freya


 The Audio Research LS25 mk2 is a real jem. I had one for a number of years and was only convinced to upgrade when I heard the Ref 5se. The LS25 mk2 holds its own really well against most current preamps. That is were I would go. The LS15 is a bit dated at this point.


I’ve been using the same Audio Research pre for about 25 years, and that isn’t for lack of trying at anything resembling a sane price. LS17-SE, LS27 .. dog meat compared to Filet Mignon. What is it? An Audio Research LS2 B MKII with remote volume/mute. A pretty good preamp with the AR standard issue Russian or Chinese 6DJ8 which does not do it justice in any regard. About 20 years ago I started tube rolling it, Holland, Russia, US ... 6 DJ8’s, Bugle Boys, PQ’s, most everything until I stumbled on a Siemens and Halske Cca 6922 grey plate..... OMG. I picked up a few NOS spares, which are unobtainable today but even the best of them do fade in a couple of years since they are already 50+ years old and the vacuum is somewhat compromised on almost all. I have laid in a few Russian rockets and such.. from pre coffee memory 6H23’s which I have not tried yet but spec identically and I have seen a few reviews rating them with the Siemens. I also had a Valvo Cca 6922 pinched waist which was superb but also ,,, one or two years of light use. The point being, if you can find an LS2 B..(or an LS2 if you don’t want to run balanced) MK 1 or 2, it would probably be well under $1K and it is a monster performer well out of it's price class. If I find one somewhere I’m going to send it out and get it recapped and the power supply upgraded and see what that does.

 This is very curious. I owned an LS2 mk2 for a number of years in the mid to late 1990s. The B stands for balanced input.  It was good for it's time but it was never great. The LS25 mk2 I had after was in a totally different league. Just so much better in every way. Far more detailed and holographic without sounding thin. 

 I agree that the LS27 is not that great.. I had a chance to buy a demo unit at a great price and passed. It sounded thin and lifeless in my (all ARC) system compared to my LS25 mk2. Audio Research has had some real winners but then there are others that are just so so. 



I like my Audio Research LS25 Mk II and think it is a real gem, but I'd be wary of downrating the LS27 (which I have not heard) without ensuring the tubes were good, it had been warmed up, and that everything else was the same in the system.  Then I'd do some blind testing...

I do have a couple of ergonomic quibbles on the MkII I own: 
- the remote is balky and a new one is expensive
- I like the old knobs best (not the earliest black ones) - this unit has knobs that _look_ like the early (1970s) ones, but they are really just twist and hold things.  I understand why they did that, but part of an expensive piece of audio equipment is ergonomics & looks.  Those contribute to the aesthetic experience, which after all, is what you are buying.
- this unit lacks an hour meter for the time on the tubes which some newer ARC gear has

I DO like the toggle switches - much nicer than the push buttons on newer units.

A good pre-amp will be a lot  more rewarding that some woo-woo cable changes.

And BTW, serious audiophile equipment should use XLR balanced cables - the ARC does of course.