Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp

Matt,

well, I see you have opened the floodgates to the Boulder 2150 server/dac at $65k list price. so maybe you need to now hear an $84.5k dac/passive analog preamp.....the MSB Select II.

http://www.msbtechnology.com/dacs/select-features/

standard with a single powerbase and 77 femto clock. I just upgraded to the second powerbase and mine has the 33 Femto clock.

after hearing the Select II at a show a few years back I could not escape that reference in my head listening to other dacs in my system, and eventually it wore down my defenses and I acquired one.

I hope you can try one at some point. even if it's just at a show. that's the only place I heard one (3 different times) until I owned one. it's really on another performance level beyond other dacs I've had in my system (Trinity, Aqua Formula, Nagra HD, Lampi GG) or at shows and more in very good vinyl playback performance territory, and includes an exceptional passive analog preamp and analog inputs, modularity for future proofing, and a 10 year warranty and 'upgrade at retail difference' program that keeps it cutting edge relevant for a decade. when 'some' here look back 10 years and add up their digital investments + preamp investments, this starts to pencil.

no worries if some get their panties in a bunch over the price, comes with the territory. I just had to throw this idea into the hat, now that the hat is so much bigger.

cheers,

Mike


@mattnshilp , thanks for the review. Were you comparing the S1 to the N10 with it’s built in dac or digital out? Or both? To put it into pricing perspective the U1 which is Lumin’s player only model ( almost the same as S1 minus dac) is £4500 and the N10 ( no dac) is £8,500.
Toetap- apologies for not clarifying. 

Both. I compared the S1 using its spdif output into my DAC versus the N10 using its spdif output into my DAC. And then we compared the S1 using its internal DAC to N10 with my DAC. THEN, we compared the $9k Lumin S1 to the $6k Aurender A10 (both server/DAC combo’s) and the A10 won in both my home and office system (my offfie system is Constellation Virgo 2 preamp/Centaur stereo amp/Focal Sopra 2 speakers. 

I think the Lumin’s server section is better then its internal DAC section. But I would put the Melco above the Lumin U1 from a stand-alone server standpoint. But the Melco is a nightmare to control currently, and a bit finicky as far as connections and control. The Lumin control software is my favorite other then using Roon. And you CAN use Roon on the Lumin as well. 
Hi Matt,

I know, you are not fond of tubes, but look at this:
http://www.audioshark.org/lampizator-186/say-hello-new-lampizator-pacific-dac-12912.html
And it has an ethernet input, which is Roon ready!

If you at RMAF this week, please go to the Lampizator room and share your impressions if possible.

Cheers,
Aziz
matt, just an FYI, AQUA just upped the ante on their Formula adding the xHD suffix, better USB interface and new algorithms for the ladder array.