Klipsch Palladium P-39F?

"I have no idea why somebody thinks klipsch is not gunning to be "Horns".. Okay I will play along,"

Go to the Klipsch forum and read about the blind test they did against the B&W 802D. This is the market that they are going for.

"But I think they are in over their heads. In their price range they have to compete with Wilson Audio Sophia, B&W 802, Thiel 3.7, Focal Alto, and the list goes on and on."

Why does everybody doubt that Klipsch can compete in this price range but a company like Eggleston or some other startup is accepted? I'll take a Lexus over a Mercedes any day and prople use to look down on Toyotas. Remember that Wilson owners dismiss B&W's as mass produced "midgrade" speakers.

For the record, my user name was from my previous ownership of Khorns in tigerwood and I now own B&W Signature 800's, so I am not just a loyal Klipsch follower.

Klipsch is doing this to sell a few pairs of the Palladiums and get a "halo effect" on the rest of their products. They are also only selling them in higher end shops (not Best Buy).

I wish them well and they certainly have the financing and R&D to build a speaker in this range. If they can build a speaker that equals the B&W 802's and requires a 100 to 200 wpc amp instead of 500wpc I'd say that they pulled off a major success.

Tigerwoodkhorns
I can tell you they will definitely not take a 100 or 200 watter even :-)
I have used several of the reference towers in the 98 & 99db range with 20 watt amps and excelled beyond the 110 db output mark including more bass power than even their own monster subwoofer models.. So I don't see that as an issue at all..
Hmm, B&W well I guess for the upper midline and going into the costly brands I can see that B&W and Klipsch probably have no equal in name recognition across the board, meaning normal people, and the freaks on audio sites! So I can see where they might base the comparison, other than that, neither product is remotley close in my opinion.

Well all pissing contests aside I have high hopes for the line. I value dynamics above all things. IMO dynamics comes with high sensitivity.... or lots and lots of power. If everything else is in line I may look into a pair for the second system in the bedroom (now B&W 703s). The wife does not like it real loud so I am looking for dynamics at low volume (65-70dB).

I helped a friend shop (and buy) a "cheap" surround system. After listening he bought klipsch book shelves all around. I set it up for him. It was much better than I thought it would be (the sub was lacking but I have gotten use to the JL fathom). He only spent 3,500 on speakers and it made we question by 15,000+ in my surround sound speakers. Now I just spend my money on two channel. My point is Klipsch may bring more bang for the buck you people think.

I always recommend Klipsch to people who are new to audio and want a good deal. Their reference and heritage are great bargains if the source is up to the task. Harshness is an issue with the wrong source, but will be with any revealing speaker.

The Palladiums should be interesting. My Khorns were very dynamic. Great detail but the soundstage was like a vertical wall. No depth and a gap in the middle. If the Palladiums have the same dynamics and better imaging they should be a winner. The real problem is that many will snub them a junk because of the manufacturer. Funny hobby this is.

Undertow, I’m sure that my system is junk but I will just have to live with it.

Tigerwoodkhorns,
Where did I give the impression I was against your comments, your system, or klipsch? As a matter of fact I think klipsch is very good, and from all my comments above say the palladiums I bet are pretty great, but a little out of their element price wise I am sure? Sorry you feel your system is junk.