Is it possible to have a quiet vinyl records


Hi, I am new to vinyl. I own VPI prime and ortofon quintet black cartridge. For the record cleaning I use record doctor V, brushes and proper sleeves. As much as I am impressed with the sound quality, I am also very disappointed that many records sound bad with very laud background noise. I read some reviews which point out that some turn tables with some cartridges are super quiet, but does it only happen with the best pressed records and most others will still make lots of pops and background noise. It there a a good method to truly enjoy quiet vinyl music or its something I have to get used to. Thank you.
kkonrad
You shouldn’t have that many noisy records. I buy quite a bit- say 15 records a week? Many old copies, some new. Sure, the older ones could have been abused (I try to limit myself to M- grading, but that’s no assurance) and occasionally I’ll get a new pressing that is defective. But, leaving aside the ones I reject or return (a relatively small fraction), the vast majority play fine- no clicks, no groove noise.
Ralph @Atmasphere wrote recently in another thread about how phono preamps can oscillate in a way that emphasizes noise. I thought you said you had the Allnic 1201 but I may be misremembering. What phono stage? If decent, I’d focus on the cartridge itself--what do others who own that cartridge say? Set-up- I can set my arm/cartridge well or really, really well if I take the time, so that’s worth revisiting. And the cleaning? If you have a new record that appears clean, try it without wet cleaning -something I don’t usually advocate- see how it plays, then do your cleaning and see if it is worse. That could tell you if something in your cleaning process is causing the problem--
Kind of hard to diagnose stuff remotely, but I’m sure others can weigh in on the Ortofon/VPI set up, on which I have no insight.
Punchline: records aren’t that noisy, click or pop ridden unless abused or badly pressed. You should not have to suffer this- it is NOT part of the vinyl experience for those of us who have worked through it (and you don’t have to be a genius to do this-- it’s partly isolating the problem and then rectifying it). Records can play clean, quiet and without the annoyances of clicks and pops you describe. Static is another potential gremlin. Do the records seem charged when you remove them from your cleaning machine or unsleeve them? FWIW, I quit dry brushing records b/c I’ve found the brushes ineffective, shed and can actually impart a charge (though they claim to be ’anti-static’).
@dgw4tube makes a good point about keeping the stylus clean. I use a cheap 10x jeweler’s loupe which is enough to see if there is crud on the stylus- i dry brush the stylus after each side, just to be sure and do a deeper clean of the stylus periodically.
This is very helpful. I use Ifi micro iPhono2 connected to Cronus Magnum 2.
I also use zerostat 3, but I notice after playing a record it is charged with static when I pick it up. Wow, so much to learn. Amazing and real life experience when vinyl plays as it should, but I guess I still have to learn how to play a record.
Thank you.
I clean a record thoroughly, and resleeve it in my preferred aftermarket sleeve (keeping the original inner). I also use a thick HDPE outer jacket ’bag,’ so I’m not sliding the resleeved record back into the jacket, but instead between the jacket and the original inner- like a sandwich. This reduces the amount of friction in pulling a record from the jacket.

Once my records are cleaned and resleeved, they are not static-charged.

I play records and handle them in bare feet (shoes and socks, particularly on carpet create a charge).
Humidity is also a factor- in the winter, with central heating, the relative humidity goes down, making static more likely. What part of the country/world are you located in?
Lot’s of little things - I’m sure others have their own methods.
Many rely on a Zerostat to neutralize the charge on the record. I’ve owned several of them over the course of more than 40 years, but seldom need to use it.
PS: I see that you are using the Zerostat- is the record ’neutral’ before you put it on the platter? I wonder why spinning it causes a charge if it was discharged before you placed it on the platter and played it. Shoes/socks/carpet?
For what it’s worth, check the humidity level in your listening room with a hygrometer. My electric baseboard heat kills the humidity in the winter. It was down to 16% when I finally got a hygrometer to measure it and then purchase a table-top humidifier. Now, I can keep the humidity between 20 and 30 percent, and no more static ’sparks’ when I touch the turntable. My records definitely have less ’noise’ now.

Cigar shops, online and local, carry inexpensive hygrometers. Get a digital one. The analog ones have too much error.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cigar+hygrometerhttp://

just my $0.02
I don't use anti-static devices, nor do I clean my LPs with anything other than a carbon fiber dust brush.

But I am very used to no ticks and pops even with older LPs, as long as the LP surface looks OK.

The trick is a stable phono preamp. Phono playback is a bit of a trick as the cartridge and tone arm cable form a resonant circuit which can inject ultrasonic or RF noise into the preamp. If the preamp is unhappy with that, it will not sound right (will need the cartridge loaded to detune the resonant circuit) and it will exhibit excess ticks and pops regardless. Also note that loading the cartridge causes the cartridge to be less able to follow the groove as the cartridge has to do more work by driving the resistor.

The ticks and pops come from actual imperfections that would otherwise be inaudible- they occur in a very short time duration. But if the preamp is unstable, it will exhibit a damped oscillation with each event and so the tick becomes audible.

So this is really worth dealing with!

There really isn't any way to fix the phono circuit except by design.