Some Direction Please......


New here as an active member, but have read through more than a few threads over the past year or so.
I've finally taken a bigger dive (have a Mac 1700 hybrid) into tube electronics in the form of a Rogue Audio Cronus Mag II integrated. 
As I plan on dusting-off my LPs which have been ignored for some 15 years or so due to 'married with children' limitations imposed by my spouse, I need some suggestions/opinions on where to best spend my $$ considering where I'm presently at with gear.
Though I still have some old Yamaha SS separates from the late 70s, I plan on doing most of my future listening with the Rogue (all stock tubes but already I seem to have developed a new perversion of the dreaded I-must-buy-stuff-for-my-stuff disease manifesting as laying in different flavor tubes though I presently know little about them) and a pair of recently acquired Harbeth P3ES speakers. I have an old Ortofon MC 20 cartridge (actually two of them), and a previously owned low hour Grado Statement Sonata is on the way. Turntable-wise, I have on hand an old Yamaha PX-2 tangential and a Denon direct drive. I think that I can suffer along with either of these tables for the next year or so though the Small Audio Manufacturing tables have caught my eye.
I seem to have reached some type of vapor lock in making the next most cost-effective addition to my system. I presently feel/think that a good phono stage should be my next area of attention though I may be way off base here. My latest feverish 'idea', is to buy something like the Rogue Ares tube phono amp or a step up transformer like the Coincident Statement or one of 'Bobs' SUTs. Am I crazy for even considering this based on what turntables etc. I have at hand? Seems the more I read the more confused I am. I still have my old SS Yamaha C-2 pre-amp which has a built in MC and MM capable phono stage, and the Rogue has what's supposed to be an improved phono input albeit for high output cartridges only. Perhaps I should just buy a 'more better' high output cartridge, use the Rogue's input and upgrade my table/tonearm?
I'm spinning hopelessly into not doing anything for fear of wasting a lot of money (for me anyway) and not realizing much of an improvement. Opinions/thoughts please.

leoniruii


leoniruii
Hi Leo first of all it seems like you're off to a very nice smart that Rogue/Harbeth combo should be excellent. On the subject of your next move I would suggest waiting for your new cartridge to arrive and listening for a bit before upgrading anything just yet. One point the Grado outputs 1mv cart so I'm not 100% sure would need a sut with it but I am certainly no analog expert. If you feel you may slip off the deep end into LOMC then certainly you may want one now or eventually. Also you didn't mention cables how is your system wired?
Hello,
    I'm sure those Harbeths are divine. And,of course, anything by Rogue is sure to be a quality piece. You are off to a very promising start. 
    A few years ago I purchased one of the ultrasonic record cleaning machines and it was like getting a serious upgrade to my whole analogue chain. Now that the newish Audiodesk Systeme Pro is out, there may be some good used Audiodesks out there. 
    Also, a small, quality, sealed subwoofer might just fill in another octave of depth without taking away from the Harbeth's brilliant speed and clarity. 
~Oran
Completely agree with ultrasonic record cleaning. In addition to immediate sonic benefits, it prolongs stylus life.

When you upgrade your analogue system, the correct order is turntable (for sonorous sound), tonearm (for repeatable adjustments), step-up transformer (if you are getting into LOMC), and then cartridge. I did it the other way around, against expert advice, and wasted too much money.

Thing is, cartridges wear out. Styli wear; suspensions wear, etc. The other three components set you up for the duration, and they don't break. Spend your money there first.
I used to have the rogue Cronus magnum II with the kt-120 tubes,  wry nice tube amp. Heads up, if you have 4 ohm speakers, make sure you change the internal wire that sets up the rogue to 4 ohm load, it made a huge gain in driving my Usher MD ii’s. 
For the Grado cart, I’d use the the internal mm phone preamp of the rogue. Btw: I tubed rolled  all the tubes (except the kt-120’s) which improved the SQ.
if you want to use the MC20, get a step up transformer. But im not sure if I would spend the $$$ to use the mc20, I’ve owned both the Grado and the mc20 in the past. 
In the end, the rogue just couldn’t control the bottom end (a little wobbly bass) so I went back to SS. For tubes, with the better tubes for the preamp and phone, the rogue is very very good