Do You Care About AESTHETICS? What Are Your Gear/Listening Room Preferences?...


Just wondering about how much people care about the aesthetics related to this hobby.

To what degree do you care, or not, about a speaker looks, an amp, etc? Is it only about the sound, or do you appreciate or require your gear to be attractive to your eye as well?

And more generally, how much do you care about the aesthetics of your listening space?

My answer to both is: I care quite a bit about the look both of my gear and my listening room.

I’ll elaborate on my preferences first.

I just love a beautiful looking piece of gear, especially speakers. I generally prefer a wood finish, and for instance some of the Tidal speaker finishes are drool-worthy to me - any speaker that has a gorgeous rich wood grain with an impeccable finish will stop me in my tracks, especially if it features a graceful or cool design. (I hate a wood finish that has blah color/grain//execution) . I’m also open to other non-wood-finish designs. I spend a fair amount of time on pinterest just looking at beautiful audio gear.  Though for me my current Thiel 2.7 speakers, in one of my favorite wood finishes - ebony - are almost ideal. Sleek, contemporary, beautiful without being garish and...very important....SPEAKER GRILLS!

This is where I depart from many of my audiophile brethren who seem to want to see every bit of technology they paid for, including all the drivers. Although some drivers can be beautiful...most are not (IMO) and so often the screws around the drivers strike me as "industrial" with an unfinished look. The kind of thing you’d never get away with in most other high quality products.

I also don’t like staring at speaker drivers because, for me, it impedes the illusion of soundstaging/imaging/speakers disappearing. If I am seeing the woofer and tweeter right in front of me while the music is playing, I can’t help but perceive them as part of the experience, so I’m conscious of the midrange coming from THAT driver and the highs coming from THOSE tweeters right there! Once the drivers are covered in a nice grill, I don’t perceive the music as coming out of the speakers (if they "disappear" well to begin with).

That general aesthetic carries to the rest of the gear and room. I certainly love some audio jewlery and I’m a tube fan. But ultimately I much prefer a clean, uncluttered visual environment for listening to music (and watching movies). So my amplification/source gear for both my 2 channel and home theater surround speakers is in a separate room down the hall a bit. (If I had to have them in my room, I’d still want to orient them out of my sight when listening to music).

So essentially all I have on view in my listening room is my stereo speakers, and some discretely hidden home theater surround speakers.

Having the preferences I do, I can often find myself somewhat aghast at set ups in which the owner clearly doesn’t care about aesthetics at all "who cares how anything looks? It’s all about the sound!" This can go from set ups (that I’ve also visited) that are the audiophile version of a frat boy’s first apartment, where you think "Ok, I know why you live alone." Wires strung everywhere, speaker grills lying around the floor, just...tons of crap everywhere. I just couldn’t relax in that type of environment.

Then there’s the more studious version, in which the owner clearly cares about aesthetics....they just have a different sense than I do. For instance, those set ups that featuring speakers with a billion exposed drivers, with giant subwoofers (woofers exposed of course) beside each speaker, every bit of amp/source equipment around the speakers, cables prominently displayed...all that stuff to me is the equivalent of being overwhelmed by the technology to a practically intimidating degree.

I like the technology, and I am definitely willing to pay more when I can for a more beautiful, higher class looking product. Speakers especially because they are unavoidable pieces of permanent furnitur, and they can be beautifully crafted. I also love any other gear that’s beautiful and I can always get the aesthetic pleasure of their being in my rack. But I prefer all that to take the back seat to my concentrating on music, hence the clean look for my room. (Which is actually a huge challenge for me to pull off, since I’ve had to integrate both my 2 channel system and home theater system in the same room).

So with my own likes and dislikes laid bare, I’d love to hear others chime in on the same subjects.

Cheers,

Prof






prof
I care about both - like the OP. Two reasons. First, there is a plethora of good-looking, good-sounding gear; it is not necessary to choose. My ZuDef4s and AncientAudio electronics look and sound great. And if I did not like their sound, there were others - AudioNote, Daedalus, Shindo, Auditorium23, etc. Second, all gear must be designed (size, shape, materials, etc) - even "ugly" gear; so why not make it attractive as well as good-sounding?


@Ebm > When i have an hour ill read this as its very important(maybe).

Blindjim > Very nice. Cordial, in fact. In Reading each word ‘aloud’ slowly, this entire page thru your remarks took less than 3 minutes. Reading silently? Less than a minute. Yeah. I timed it.

this is what is wrong with America in general. Folks who either can not read well, refuse to read more than 100 characters, or opt to boost their post count artificially by infusing ridicule to those who are expressive.

This type of behavior says much more about the descent of social and communicative skills we possess as a nation and why they continue to dwindle. Its no wonder we rank near the bottom of all the major countries in the world in education and have become about as popular as Russia.

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one would think being unable to see well would indicate the visceral is of little consequence. Sorry. IMO, this is not so.

Beauty is in the eye…. True musical magic is realized by the heart.

Having bought this home based on specs I was able at that time to demand, an incidental arrangement of equipment which could be managed which ordinarily would not otherwise have occured.

It was built and outfitted completely from personal choices, apart from its floor plan, of course. This allowed for as the OP mentioned, a separation of gear and listening room.

Having the gear and the speakers independent of each other sure makes for an exceptional esthetic. I like the outcome. So much so when I move from here, possibly, I’ll keep this same arrangement even if I have to knock down a wall and rebuild a specific nook with dedicated wiring and cooling for all the electronics.

BTW… cooling is the main reason for things being kept apart from the listening environment.


As for esthetics of gear in general, I doubt anyone buys anything that doesn’t at least look clean and unblemished, barring minor wear marks usually hard to see or virtually unnoticeable at distance.

Apart from loudspeakers, when considering electronics, performance is key. Not merely their esthetics. Gorgeous sounding amps for instance, don’t always come ins color options so one is usually stuck whith what is available once they fall in love with ABC or XYZ amps. Speakers however loom large and are eye catching critters often arriving in what ever color the buyer chooses, that is if bought new or at times by sheer chance. Albeit, after the fact one could have speakers refinished, unlike preamps amps, DAC, CDPs, etc. I stay with basic Audiophile formal black, or gold when or if available.

If I had to go all single ended power, and keep the gear near the speakers instead, one has to do the best one can with the adjoining space. I would opt for individual stands rather than a rack. Low profile and short wires for the signal processing plug in stuff.

Wires and electronics don’t have the esthetic choice of speakers. Likely never will. So then it is catch as catch can.

Unless I’m entertaining more than one or three folkis, the lighting is gonna get dimmed. Maybe off completely. So grills on or off is immaterial. In fact, if the sound is best with them off, I could care less what the drivers look like, see ‘performance’ note above, regardless the light switch position.

Acoustic treatments for the room itself? Appropriate. Always they sould blend into the existing theme and color scheme. Why not?

this is what is wrong with America in general. Folks who either can not read well, refuse to read more than 100 characters, or opt to boost their post count artificially by infusing ridicule to those who are expressive. 

While true, it remains unfortunate that in the grand scheme of things, there are significantly more important things wrong with America than reading and writing alone would ever be able to address.
@douglas_schroeder

"I have found no direct correlation between appearance/aesthetics and sound quality. "

That would seem pretty obvious from the experience of most audiophiles, wouldn’t it?

At least in a wider sense, it’s obvious someone can design excellent sounding speakers with a shoddy look, and visa-versa.  We've all experienced this.

The industrial look of the typical prototype in the factor will be crap, but will sound essentially the same as the final, beautiful looking production models.

I’ve had to send away speakers whose looks I was in love with...but they just didn’t sound how I’d hoped.

On the other hand, it is a fact that the looks of a speaker can influence the perception of sound (e.g. tests that show a more expensive looking speaker is rated higher in sound quality in sighted tests, but not in blind tests).

My current speakers certainly had to sound right to me, but I wouldn’t doubt that the fact I like their looks so much also influences my experience to some degree.




Prof, I disagree about whether the conclusion is obvious. As in most areas of consumer products aesthetics and performance are expected to go hand in hand. Only use of hundreds of audio components has revealed what I consider a significant departure from the aesthetics and performance linkage. Most audiophiles will not get their hands on so much gear, so they may never draw that conclusion. BTW, you seemed to zero in on speakers; I was not discussing simply speakers, but all audio components, even cables. Now, when it comes to speakers I believe your observations are more accurate. Yet, the internals of speakers can be mediocre, even with very popular, aesthetically pleasing ones. (Now, I'm not interested in a debate on the efficacy of the wiring and internal components of speakers)

Perhaps further clarification is in order. In terms of "build quality," there is usually a correlation between a highly aesthetic product and high quality of build. It's not very common that a manufacturer who puts great effort into the "total package" will skimp or do shoddy work on the circuit, but usually is proud to show the quality of the internals. However, that does not correlate to superior sound, at least in my comparisons of gear over the past 13 years or so of reviewing. That is not obvious at all in the community, as very high quality, highly aesthetic products are immensely popular, yet they are not consistently the best sounding. YMMV