Pass x250.8 vs Hegel h4se vs Ayre VX-R


Just looking for thoughts from anyone who's heard 2 or more of these for comparison sake.  For the past few years I've had Ayre amps in my system (altho just an AX-7e and AX-5) and have enjoyed them, but occasionally have felt like "there might be something more".  I prefer solid state.

I can prob go up to about 10k used.

The amps named have caught my attention.
joncourage
Great point.  Pass and Ayre are both US.  Definitely would hate to send something that heavy to EU for service.
See if you can find a used Jeff Rowland amp, once you hear these amps you will want one, very high end but very good.
I have a Pass Labs INT-250 their new integrated. A truly amazing
amp' Its connected to a Herron Phono amp. Best sound I have ever heard. EBM is correct, Pass amps are reliable and the service is excellent. Almost any foreign product has slower service. 
I would also recommend Pass. I have a pair of xa100.5's and they are truly excellent sounding amplifiers and a great company.

Chuck 
Owned the X250.8 and stumbled across an H4SE, so I bought it. I sold the Pass. Hegel was far more authoritative in my system, wider and deeper soundstage, more transparent and still maintained a slight warmth like the Pass. I thought the H4SE was better in almost all areas, hands down.

Hegel's big amps are the industry's best kept secret in my opinion.  They are usually found second-hand with deep discounts.  That may change if more people hear them, but I absolutely loved the H4SE.