Guys, the problem you run with adding subs in any system is integration of the subs. It's VERY VERY hard to get subs that share the same sound as the main speaker. This is one thing that Vandersteen was able to do. I know many of you have subs and love them etc... and that's cool. I"m not trying to rain on your parade. I you go read how Vandersteen does the crossover adn how his amp is able to pick up the same sonic character as the main amps, then you will understand what I'm saying. I too felt the Focal's bass was good, but very limited, especially in this price range. Many think I'm married to Vandy's, but it's MY money and I want what I personally like best, so I went with the Quatro's as I didn't' hear anything under 20k (and more) that I liked nearly as much overall. I play a ton of old rock and there is plenty of bass, plus it's tunable as I've said before. That's so important in most rooms. It's not the digital Turing either, that does negatively affect the sound if you listen closely. I felt the set up was easy. The dealer came over to do that part. The PRoac would also be my second choice.
Still looking for speakers in the 10-20,000 range
I’ve heard Proacs, Personas 3 and 5, Ryans, Wilsons, Wilson Benesch, Monitor Audios, B and Ws and several others in the 10-$20,000 range. My favorite so far is the KEF Reference 3. I would consider the Reference 5 but, as I’ve posted before, there is no place to hear them within 400 miles. Still plan to hear the Focal 2 and 3. Unless I love the Focals, I'm inclined to either go with the KEF Reference 3 or wait a couple of months (or more) to check out the new Magico A3. My room is 24x18. I have Audio Research electronics and 20 plus year old Proac Response 3.5 speakers. It’s been a long process and I’m not sure if I’ll be relieved or disappointed when it ends. Hard to decide if the Magico’s are worth waiting for. Thoughts?
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headphonedreams. I understand that bass out of 6.5 speaker would be limited, but with the Kanta 2’s the bass was boomy or "honky". That character carried up into the upper bass / lower midrange. Even with subs and electronic crossovers I am concerned that the "honk" would still be audible with rock music. ozzy |
I have not found integrating subs and main speakers a hard thing to do. Just remember the REL advice: cross over low, and volume up. What is not so easy is integrating them into the room. Here a combination of multiple subs and dsp room eq such as the Antimode 8033 works well. See Floyd Toole on the subject: https://www.audioholics.com/room-acoustics/history-of-multi-sub-sfm |
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