Erik,
See my recent response to you in the MQA "Philosophy" thread regarding Mr. Craven's "apodizing" filters.
Best Regards
cj
See my recent response to you in the MQA "Philosophy" thread regarding Mr. Craven's "apodizing" filters.
Best Regards
cj
MQA and the "Pre Ring - Post Ring" Hoax
Not sure I agree with all the statements by the OP but the best type filters have long been known as linear phase - these filters preserve the phase relationship between the various frequencies in the audio signal - this is important for correct timbre. Anything else is wrong. So yes MQA is a significant step backwards for audiophiles - the cure to fix pre-ringing is far worse than any perceived or invented problem from pre-ringing in playback. Of course some extreme Q filters used in mix and mastering can create pre-ringing effects that are audible. In that case, the audio is highly filtered and over produced to begin with. Generally a filter designed to correct this pre ringing is only going to make the audio worse - especially if applied to the entire signal rather than just the instrument that is of concern. Most often this preringing occurs on snare drums where a lot of compression and gating is applied - in this case a minimum phase filter in the studio protools world may be preferable to linear phase - however this will change the timbre of the snare. |
cj1965 "There's been a lot of misinformed babble... and similar pseudo science clap trap...Newsflash folks - it's a scam...So effectively the entire debate about ringing in digital audio is a misnomer - a hoax... Any audio system that eliminates or significantly alters this pre/post ringing present in the signal that is fed to it is not truly "high fidelity" and is thus bandwidth limited." Well it is certainly easily proven that every audio system is "bandwidth limited" so I am not sure what your post has done to compensate for the babble and clap trap you complain about with such such vociferousness also just because you find fault with a specific audio process, protocol or topology does not make it a "hoax" or voodoo or snakeoil. |
In the real world, any pre or post ringing associated with digital pulses in pulse code and delta sigma converters is at such a low level and frequency outside the working bandwidth of the circuit as to be of no consequence whatsoever. The comparators, op amps and output filters used are not sensitive in any meaningful way to any ringing unless you are feeding the circuit a Dirac Delta type or Impulse response signal. In that case, yes - low level pre and post ringing could be high enough in amplitude and low enough in frequency to register in a typical converter output. In the real world, however, no such signal containing extreme bandwidth and amplitude will ever be encountered with normal signals. Again, the issue of pre and post ringing is a red herring - a hoax propagated to make a bogus sales pitch for a solution in search of a problem. The manner in which normal signals are digitally deconstructed and reconstructed prevents low level switching noise in digital circuits from becoming audible. |
There are lots of things wrong with Redbook CD including but not limited to scattered background laser light getting into the photodetector, the stubborn vulnerablity of CDs to vibration of all types, especially seismic vibration, CD wobble during play as a result of out of round discs, the susceptibility of CDs to static electric charge and the susceptibility of electronics in CD players to Magnetic fields and RF interference. Other than that, no problem! Perfect Sound Forever! 😛 |