Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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I love Jesus!

If Jesus was doing snake oil, count me in all day long and twice on Sunday.

Here’s maybe where you are having a problem amg. You think I’m arguing. My friend I’m simply "doing". Amg, you have a steak in front of you, how do you know it will taste good? You taste it. Are you going to measure it somehow to tell you how it is going to taste? Nope. Amg audio is something you do. No one can make you do it, we can only tell you if or if not we liked the steak. We can come over to your table and cut it up in bite sizes but making you enjoy it, that's up to you.

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

You may be doing, but not explaining Michael. Why do, if you are not told why it happens. Again you fob off the explanation.

I am not worried if you love Jesus or not, that is not the issue. The issue is science against your explanation of faith in your solution, and faith is losing.

I don't care if you are "doing" but you are not explaining.

Explain how or why this works. Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?

Ok amg lets do it your way. What do you use RTA or FFT?

If we're all of a sudden going to be engineers lets do this thing.

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

amg56

Explain how or why this works. Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?

Nobody here owes you an explanation for anything. Everyone is free to post their own experiences. You are free to evaluate those experiences any way you like.