Phono stage can minimize tics and pops on vinyl


Recently @atmasphere  made an interesting statement twice on a thread about CD vs. LPs where he posited that one phono stage can minimize the sound of pops and tics over others.  

I recently upgraded from my 25 year old Aragon 47k phono stage to a Luxman E-250.  After sufficient break-in time, which was considerable, as I pulled out my old, though well kept vinyl, it became very clear that I was experiencing this effect with the Luxman.  The pops and tics were still there, but they were much lower in volume relative to the music and thus made all of my vinyl quieter in the sense of surface noise.

Interestingly, the treble was clear and open.  Well recorded jazz cymbals had that burnished brass sound with a natural airy decay.  You can readily tell the wood tipped sticks from the plastic ones!  Good hall sound and open, expansive soundspace!

So...have any of you ever experienced this kind of change, and if so, what might you attribute it to?

Thanks!
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Our UV-1 does not have problems with ticks or pops and its not particularly pricey.

Our MP-3 and MP-1 are not that expensive as high end preamps go- cheaper than ARC, cj and many others. Are others charging more for ticks and pops? 

As Foghorn Leghorn once said 'Ah say there that's a joke, son' :)

Its all a matter of if the designer took all the variables into account- adding stopping resistors to a circuit isn't expensive; making sure its resistant to RFI after that isn't either. After that the big deal is overload margin and as long as you aren't too precious about power supply voltages that can be solved easily too.

This tic and pop issue is a big frickin' deal.  I had no idea how clean my vinyl really was until upgrading the phono amplifier.  For some, this is probably old news that the phono stage can so radically alter the audibility of surface noise but it is a revelation to me.  If I had known, I would have upgraded long before now.  Just finished listening to Dan Fogelberg's "Souvenirs" LP.  Wow!

I did always take care of my vinyl...I had a "Rec O Vac" as a young buck.  Glad I had the good sense to care for my LPs at the beginning of the journey.  Rediscovering my collection and loving' it!😀😀
When I got back to vinyl I started with prepackaged deal, TT, inexpensive phono stage and cartridge. Pretty easy to get started but not very rewarding. The surface noise almost made me sell the rig and stick with digital. Yet, I hung in there and started the phono stage and TT rotation. I can’t remember how many have run thru my system but maybe 7 devices each. All the TT’s, cartridges and phono stages were well below a grand. Then I purchased a full function pre amp with MM and MC stages that cost over grand used, I don’t believe there was a major reduction in P&C but with better resolution, it was just less noticeable. Getting rid of some of the P&C was long process of finding the right synergy between my cartridge (s) and pre amp.

Side note. My Wife and I listen together, she’s not a vinyl person and hates the P&C. Recently I switched to a Shibata stylus and She has became a believer. So for the last few months we’ve listened to nothing but vinyl. My ears have adapted and I now even enjoy some of my more poppy LP’s and notice the noise less and just enjoy the performance.

Cleaning: I have an old manual Nitty Gritty, carbon fiber brush and microfiber cloths
'P&C' I'm guessing means 'ticks and pops'...
The stylus might helps as it might track a different portion of the groove that has less noise, but if your vinyl is undamaged the real benefit comes when you use a stable phono section.