Best place for a Sub in my mini Theater


I am finishing half of my basement into a 10’ x 20’ theater room. The viewing area is only 10’ deep. The tv and credenza will be recessed 2 feet so that they are flush with the wall. Picture them stuck in a closet.   I have in wall speakers for the fronts. Where is the best place for the sub and facing which direction? It’s front firing.

I can recess it into the wall and have it face the audience but it would be firing into a wall only 10 feet away.

I’m thinking maybe I should put it in the front left corner and have it fire towards the 20’ length but it may be blocking. A closet. 

The couch is against the back wall. What if I put it against the back left corner?

As you can see I’m a bit confused. 


craigert
Sorry I have you the wrong model number it’s WT380IDC. They are also enclosed.

i read that although the surrounds should be pointed at the listeners from the sides, they should not be directly in line with the head. It said it should be a tad behind so that it creates more ambient sound. Since the couch is against the wall, it is why I was thinking I could place bookshelves at the sides. 

I totally agree with you for having loose independent speakers to move around, but I already purchased the in wall speakers. I also have a set of round FX speakers for atmos.

ok don’t laugh but the ceiling height is only 7 feet high so 10’ x 20’ x 7’.

The thing is is that I already bought the in wall wt380idc’s.

Do I now stick them in the front, or stick them in the back?
Also, you are right in the switch. I thought they were dipole switches but it’s a boundary switch in case you are close to an adjacent wall I guess.

I am literally thinking about building a mini wall on the other side of the couch just to mount this thing on the side.

I’m assuming it would have to be out from the wall at least a foot and a half though so the wall would have to come out like 32”.
Finally, monitor audio did not recommend towers for the fronts since they would be in a cubby/closet cutout for the TV/credenza. I was thinking that they still have 10” behind them and would be flush with the wall, but they seemed to think that the in wall would sound better. I just thought that even a tower or bookshelf up against a wall would sound better than an in wall but who knows.
The mini wall is not going to work. It looks like it’s down to me literally placing the two sets of speakers temporarily and trying it in different locations I think. At least the in walls are enclosed to get an idea. 

yeah, I wouldn't build a mini wall because it can mess with acoustics. If you don't like the idea of bookshelves on stand, then I would probably mount them in the ceiling.  If you want to use the wt380idc for surrounds, I would mount them in the ceiling about 10-15% away from the side walls (or as long as it gives you some equalization between listeners).  The wt380idc is actually a pretty good one because it’s completely sealed in its own enclosure and you can tilt the tweeter a bit to direct a little more towards the listener.

Also, not laughing on your ceiling height because we all have our environment limitations.  I am actually asking for a reason:

https://amcoustics.com/tools/amroc?l=10&w=20&h=7&ft=true&r60=0.6

Based on your exact room size, it appears that you have a bass node at 56hz and a couple more at 80 and 84hz.  If you get your subs in the room and still feel you are lacking bass, then you can add some acoustic treatments to absorb the bass.  If you wanted to do this, I would call GIK Acoustics and have them make a special T55 Scopus trap (they will do this).  The traps are 24” x 24” and probably around 8-9” thick.  Cost will probably be around $240 each.  I would buy 4 and stack them in the rear floor corners.  I know it sounds like a lot ($960), but this is essentially like adding another subwoofer.  The T55 scopus will actually absorb a little at the 80-84hz area as well.

I have two huge 12” subwoofer cabinets in my room powered by a 1,000 watt amplifier.  I also have two sets of tuned membrane bass traps, one pair for 63hz and another pair for 50hz.  It wasn’t until I added the 50hz tuned membrane traps that I had a significant increase of bass in the 40 to 60 hz area!  So the size and power of the subwoofer doesn’t really matter if you have room nodes that are cancelling out the bass frequencies.

You can always do this in the future if you feel you need to.