Do speaker cables need a burn in period?


I have heard some say that speaker cables do need a 'burn in', and some say that its totally BS.
What say you?


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@geoffkait 

Please explain to us minions how a particle of light, a photon, can be transferred over copper (or silver for that matter)??   

>>>>>>>Try to keep up with the conversation. I do not push my products but I’m always happy to see someone else mention them.

I'm NOT promoting your questionable products, I mention them because they are ridiculous, how can anyone on this site take someone who promotes quacky science like that this take ANY of your suggestions seriously?? 

>>>>The signal itself is a horse of a different color and travels at near lightspeed in metal conductors. Which of course means the signal must be comprised of photons. So, it’s actually photons that navigate the wire better in one direction than the other.

Please provide us with the documentation/science for directional wire and where to find it besides audioquest? Oh, and where can someone purchase "directional wire"?   Do any high end electronic or speaker companies use directional wire in their products? Is directional wire used in our homes or the electrical grid?  Oh, and don't forget the documentation on photons traveling over a wire!

If what you are suggesting is true I'm sure it would be used everywhere to gain an extra edge.

So now you are calling me out on the quality of my system???

>>>>>Maybe I am. It is one of the reasons why a test can go awry. You might be taking this just a tad too personally.

Not taking it personal at all, I have been in this hobby for over 40 years, I know so i'm pretty sure i know what i'm doing. I just don't like people promoting quacky, pseudoscience on these forums.  There are younger, less knowledgeable people reading these forums that we need to keep our hobby going and your suggestions don't help.  

As @sleepwalker65 wrote:

We have this phenomenon of people blindly doing things due to information that they interpret incorrectly.

In case you don't know the definition of pseudoscience its taking a grounded and provable scientific principle and manipulating it into a nonsensical form that is NOT verifiable. Your insistence of wire directionality and photons over wire falls right into this category.



“If I could explain it to the average person they wouldn’t have given me the Nobel prize.”
OMG!

I don't think there is a Nobel Prize for pseudoscience and the fact that you would claim to have won a Nobel prize is as crazy as the products you are pedaling.  You do realize that any of us minions can simply query the list of winners??

And once again you have diverted the conversation to avoid PROVING what you claim.  Please, please provide us with actual information to back up your claims!  Many of us ARE engineers and would love to read/see the facts behind wire directionality.
It would seem that even in a high-end forum site such as this, discussions devolve into childish attacks. Lots of psychological tricks being played here. I’ll summarize:
1. If you can’t hear the difference, then your system must be crap. You clearly haven’t spent enough money and may as well be sporting Bose all over the house.

2. Science is fungible. When it comes to the laws of physics and electronics, we like to consider those to be "guidelines".

3. If you can’t hear the difference, it must be your poor hearing - clearly you are not a golden ear, nor do you possess the auditory faculties to understand the remarkable differences.

I find #3 to be particularly amusing, since I’d guess that most of the people here with disposable incomes large enough to spend five figures on wires will be at least in their 40’s, and most are probably older. Those in their 40’s have already lost about 3.5% of their hearing. Those in their 50’s have lost over 11% of their hearing (on average). (link provided below). I would guess that most of us who enjoy our audio systems probably tend to listen at higher levels than the average Joe with his big-box-store HT system connected to his TV. If anything, we would tend to be on the higher end of the hearing loss curve as a result. I probably lost at least 3% at an Aerosmith concert in 1978.

But I’m not trying to convince anyone here not to spend the money if it’s just burning a hole in your pocket. HiFi salesmen gotta eat, too, and your state could use the sales tax. However, I would strongly recommend people taking Leo’s advice (above) and start with the room analysis and treatments. Put in as much acoustic damping material and as many bass traps as your spouse will let you get away with. I don’t think there’s one soul on this or any respectable audio forum who would argue with the enormous and easily measurable differences room acoustics make. Then and only then would I expect to see a clown car.

https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/statistics/hearing-loss-increases-with-age
It would seem that even in a high-end forum site such as this, discussions from others from other sites with an agenda devolve into childish attacks. Lots of psychological tricks being played here.......

It goes both ways. Do any of you from that other site honestly believe you're the first to raise your points? Do you think that your appeals to authority, name dropping and your credentials intimidate in any way, shape or form?

Please cite the "law of science" that states there is no break in without conflating it with a law that predicts a measurement. And don't forget to omit the other subsets of said laws that say otherwise when it does pertain to sound; that are still debated to this very day by real scientists and engineers who take the time to deliberate.

All the best,
Nonoise