What albums, in your opinion, sound unquestionably better on Vinyl rather than Digital?


So this is not an effort to start a medium-war thread, rather in my view some records just seem to be mastered better on the vinyl record version than the digital version. Three that spring to mind from my record collection:

  • Henri Texier - Varech
  • Tom Misch - Geography
  • JLin - Black Origami (this very surprisingly to me)


I know everyone’s system is different, everyone’s ears are different and everyone’s tastes are different, but for the purposes of this discussion let us assume that YOU are the final arbiter of objective reality!
corvaldt
It’s a crap shoot as to which will be better.

Back in the Vinyl only era [ cassettes are Lo-Fi ] quality varied drastically from plant to plant, sequence in the stamper run and most assuredly by country / region. Artists with clout could specify all their product was released from which plants and maximum discs per stamper. Plebe acts often shipped discs with barely any groove at all left at the end of the stamper run.

A pal in Canada called and told me a store-bought LP had 1KHz @ about -70db all the way through one side. Either the bozo making the EQ copy or the cutter left their oscillator on. DOH! It passed QC all the way from the record company to the cutting lab to the stamping plant and back to Atlantic Canada QC!

In the modern era, master tapes recorded decades ago have suffered the ravages of time - binder deterioration, print through, lubricant loss. Add in sub optimal storage and handling e.g. winding at full speed, storage head out rather than tail out to mask print through, etc and it’s amazing how good the quality can sometimes still be. As often as not, ReIssues leave much to be desired. The music may still be great, but the sound can be atrocious. Two CDs in particular: 20th Anniversary Dark Side of the Moon and Mobile Fidelity Yellow Brick Road. The only reason I haven’t thrown them out is to use as examples for the uninitiated.

Record companies may care more about the money than the music, releasing ReMasters which are nothing but some B-flat 3rd rate tech adding EQ and compression to an existing bit-stream abomination. See http://ielogical.com/Audio/#ReIssues for an example on Donald Fagan’s NightFly I.G.Y.

IMO, retail vendors do themselves a huge disservice by not allowing the customer to use their own reference material. Lord only knows how poor the source and transfers are to the likes of Tidal, iTunes, Amazon, etc. See http://ielogical.com/Lossy/ to see just how much they care!

@ieales, great information there. To compound matters there was also the widespread switch to Ampex recording tape which had unforseen implications for the whole industry. 
 

"In the mid 1970s, Underwood says, most tape manufacturers adopted polyurethane as a tape binder. Unfortunately, the polyurethane absorbs water and releases an acid. ‘You then get gummy residues on the tape, which resemble heavy oils.’

‘We live in a perishable world’, says Underwood. ‘The way to keep tapes
is cool and dry . . . People don’t realise it but the UK has a high humidity,
often up to 85 per cent.’

Underwood is adamant that it is not just Ampex tapes that are affected,
and not just professional tapes either. All analogue audio tapes of around
ten years old, between the mid 1970s when polyurethane was first used as
a binder, and the mid 1980s when stabilisers were improved, are at risk."

Barry Fox, New Scientist, 1990

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg12717352-700-technology-master-tapes-c...


The affected tapes can often still be played after 'baking' at low heat but it's a drastic solution. 

Thankfully tapes from the pre mid 1970s have better chances of surviving intact.

All the evidence does seem to suggest that sound quality has never been a priority for the industry. People like Michael Fremer have championed better sound for years, so has Neal Young. 

There were also rumours knocking around that Steve Jobs was an audiophile, ironically a vinyl man no less. It would probably take someone of that stature to sell the concept of audiophile sound to the masses now. 

Perhaps we should all write to Tim Cook.


I have this on Vinyl and as a DXD flac file.
TETTERO Plays Eddie Harris & Les McCann
Vinyl
https://tettero.bandcamp.com/album/tettero-plays-eddie-harris-les-mccannhttp://
DXD
https://www.soundliaison.com/index.php/studio-showcase-series/371-tettero-plays-eddie-harris-les-mccann
Both sounds great. the Vinyl is warm but also a bit more dry.
The DXD is more spacious.
I bought the vinyl because I have a feeling it might be a collectors item in a few years....anyhow great album. Highly recommended.

It is interesting that if a vinyl and a CD (or higher) are made from the original source, the analogue vinyl wins in sound.

Vinyl, is mechanical, there is an underlying hiss and the pops as the needle tortures its way through the grooves.

Digital is the same representation of the original source but is just the pure music. Unadulterated, non mechanical.

Yet so many people like analogue vinyl. I have a Pioneer BDP-52 and a Nakamichi CD player and both sound mellow and warm. Could it be that todays CD (and up) players just don't have the electronics to made them sound good?

(I also have 5 TT's inc a Nak, MS, Kuzma etc.) All sound beautiful with the right setup. But so do my CDs.