Best multi channel amp and processor good for 2 channel listening.


Hi All,

I am new to this forum and have a few questions in reference to HT processors.  I am starting from scratch and switching from a Krell S-1000 and S-1500.  I sold the processor a few months back and I going to list here the amp.

I am currently considering the new Bryston 9B3 and the SP4 and decision was based on upgrade ability and warranty. The speakers for HT will be Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home and for 2 channel Verity Otello’s.  My second choice was Classe but I was informed that they have all sales on hold, this is concerning.  I have not listened to either, my choice is based on reviews and the Bryston dealer.  My decision was also based they are both good for two channel, I am not set on this but it will help the budget and space.  I am looking for a warm and good over all sound; some might say 3 dimensional sound, clarity is also a factor.  Actually, all I’ve read in reference to Classe fits the bill.  I would like a couple of other choices to include in my short list and opinions are welcome. The budget for the processor and amp is approx. 22k.  

Thanks to all.....
maguiar
Belles: Never heard of them, but quick research shows good performance at reasonable prices.

Sim/Moon: Good performance but overpriced, same category as Boulder. Also, they focus on the wrong things, selling a >800W power amp for $42K is just dumb, there are hardly any speakers that don’t distort/clip when fed 200W (some speakers claim they can, but it’s just marketing unless DSP is in the picture).

McCormack: Decent performance at reasonable prices.
Pretty much all amps will measure flat and accurate.  However, I stopped focusing on "measurements" a long time ago.  Some measurements will help, but they will never tell you how an amp sounds.  Much of how an amp sounds is how the input stage and output stage circuits are put together as well as how the amp is biased (Class A, Class AB, Class B).  Also, how the Class A bias is engineered to initially slew.  High bias Class A amps and warmer amps will start slewing gradually and then rise up with their normal "slew rate".  These amps will sound more full and have more overall volume, but they will tend to have slightly rolled off high frequency resolution.  On the other hand, lightning fast amps, such as Bryston, will have excellent high resolution response, but the bass/midbass/midrange may be light.  That is because the slew is so fast, that it is not letting the amp continue to translate the DAC square step waveforms into true analog waveforms.  It's all relative, though, and system synergy has a lot to do with it.  That's why I thought that pairing the somewhat laid back Class A Bryston SP3 processor/preamp with the very fast Bryston B3 amps would be a good match.  They would compensate for eachother's sonic signature.
auxinput,

I can see that and I also understand not everyone will interpret or hear the same way.  I am still going to audition the Bryston, as I stated originally a 20 year warranty is not to be taken lightly....


@auxinput

That is because the slew is so fast, that it is not letting the amp continue to translate the DAC square step waveforms into true analog waveforms

Squarewave measurements are common in tests, this is done for every Stereophile amp measurement for instance.

I get what you are saying, and since the room is an unknown factor I always recommend home trials (meaning being able to return the product for free or just return shipping, no $50 restocking fee or any of that nonsense).

There are more to DAC measurements than just a flat frequency response. There is THD, IMD, noise floor, volume linearity (if it has volume controls), channel mismatch, channel crosstalk, etc.
THD, IMD, noise floor are all technical measurements that help engineer a good product.  However, all electronics will sound different and after 20 years of listening, I really don't pay attention to these measurements.  I have tested Bryston 7B3, Parasound JC1, Classe CT-M300, and all sorts of Emotiva amps in my system.  All sound radically different and everyone has a different tastes on what they want.