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The Science of Cables

It seems to me that there is too little scientific, objective evidence for why cables sound the way they do. When I see discussions on cables, physical attributes are discussed; things like shielding, gauge, material, geometry, etc. and rarely are things like resistance, impedance, inductance, capacitance, etc. Why is this? Why aren’t cables discussed in terms of physical measurements very often?

Seems to me like that would increase the customer base. I know several “objectivist” that won’t accept any of your claims unless you have measurements and blind tests. If there were measurements that correlated to what you hear, I think more people would be interested in cables. 

I know cables are often system dependent but there are still many generalizations that can be made.
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Prof, yes; I voluntarily reviewed AVA's ABX Comparator (review is found at dagogo.com) with the express intent of 1. Seeing what an unusual device it is and how I would appreciate it, and 2. ABXing my ability to discern various products. I was aware that I was putting my "reviewer's credentials" on the line with one form of assessment.

I did the testing with it and passed solidly (i.e. 8 or 9 of ten in most trials) on every genre of gear tested except power amps. (The article discusses the results, and reveals that post-mortem I learned that I had similar results to AVA.

I figure that if I can pass ABX, which was not easy, I can tell if there is a much more obvious difference with Schroeder Method. So, yes, I think I have a good basis to discern a difference with Schroeder Method when I passed challenging ABX with power cords, ICs and SCs.


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Jim
Your point means nothing as the applications are different. Are you trying to tell me that NASA uses .26/ft Chinese made cable in the shuttle? Further, does NASA use the same cable throughout the shuttle regardless of application? I am sure in some industry a machine exists that uses uber expensive cable but I am not willing to do the research as I dont think your point is particularly germane. The possibility exists that extremely expensive cable only exists in audio because this is the only application in which the additional cost can be justified. My mind is open to the possibility while yours is shut. 
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Was NASA mentioned in a now deleted post?
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WOW! jsauter - Get with it! Read the post - I said that $.26 per ft. is what some cable manufactures pay for their bulk 24AWG bulk ins. copper lead wire from China.
Not NASA, or anyone else, except HEA, uses $1K per ft. signal or data transfer cable.
On average, though, considering that most everything has gone, or, is going wireless, it would be somewhere closer to $2.00 -  $3.00 per ft. (NOT $1,000.00 per foot).
Do your own research and get back to me>>>Jim
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