Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru
Hey guys lay off Richard. What he says shouldn't hurt your feelings if you truly believe in what you're doing. I think we all feel passionately about audio but it's how we express the passion that counts. I will assume for my own sake that Richard is sincere in his belief. Please let's just agree to disagree and get back to the journey after this brief,unfortunate interruption.
Phil, it is sad indeed to behold how the masses of the DAC afflicted are surrounded by unscrupulous individuals and companies that foster their doom and feed on their despair. From mysterious corporations that promise the poor wretches audio nirvana through gleaming pieces at staggering prices, to modifiers-magicians who sell promises of relief from the horrid compulsions of DAC for much more moderate sums, to British physicians who insite the whole sad lot to self-medicate for only penneys a day. And it's all downhill from here! The only thing left is to admit it in public, to declare our state, to cry out our fate. . . Yes, it is true, I too Guido, have DAC! I too am an audiophile, was bborn an audiophile, will pass on to Nirvana as an Audiophile!
Guido,
How very lucky for me that neither of my children have inherited the disease. How also lucky for me that my wife never had it, not even the slightest trace of it. I think their serendipity explains the existence of the purple boom box in my household. It also explains why I have been removed to a lonely basement room with shelves of LPs and CDs and why I'm permitted to play with glowing vacuum tubes and extravagantly priced electric cords. Now if I can figure out how to defeat the lock on the outside of the door, I may be able to rejoin my kids and their purple piece of audiophile Nervana.
Aldavis, richard was politely, invited to participate, add his commentary, in a profeswsional, advisory manner. He chose to throw stones. Not us. I do agree we should let him skulk back into his hole, if he has nothing positive to add.

My feeling are not hurt. Why? Cause I am here having fun in this obsession. I am buying, trying, selling, and having quite an enjoyable time. I agree that there is a lot of hype on some products, by unsrupulous sellers. I just know by my own ears, in my own system, with my own brain. Exactly what I like, and dislike. I will not sheepishly go away. I will continue with my journey until it is no longer fun for ME. It will be MY decision, no one elses. I will stop my rant now. Enjoy the journey, my friends.
Well, I certainly agree with Richard here, as well as the other major modifiers in this country(I should not have to mention names, right?). Alex, has pissed off most other modifiers with his blatant arrogance and unprofessional remarks and most of all statements which are formed merely from opinion and not experience. This is the bottom line. On that note, I am more then "honored" to put my modified Denon 3910 against his any day. We feel our execution and parts are far beyond his...because(quite simply) we have compared these parts to ours... I once offered Alex(~1.5years ago) the trial of Audio Consulting transformers which we confirmed without a doubt through listening tests were WAy better then what he was using(Lundahl?? and now Japanese stuff). He declined because he felt his were the best?????? This is the way he thinks and his arrogance and ego will start to hurt him. I do not post that often on the audio forums but in this case(Alex) I feel compelled to speak up for RAM and support Richard 100%

Sincerely,

Kyle Takenaga
Reference Audio mods-President