why can't I make a digital recording of a DVD?


I'm looking for suggestions on how to make a digital recording from a digital music DVD. I have a yamaha CDR-D651 with an optical cable running to my receiver, which the DVD player is also connected. The owners manual on the recorder says I can make a 1st generation copy, but it simply will not record in digital- says "can't copy" on the menu. Any solutions or suggestions? thanks!
gibson58
Maybe the solution is simpler than all that. Do you have the output on your DVD player set to PCM? Maybe the CD player is choking on the Dolby Digital bitstream.
Hudsonhawk, you were right- I had it set to dolby digital and when changed it to PCM, was able to make the digital recording. Awesome! Thanks for the tip.
Ok, new problem. I got the DVD's that were recorded in dolby digital 5.1 to record to CD by changing the player setting to PCM. I've got a few concert DVD's that were recorded in PCM, not dolby digital, and now they won't record. Any ideas? thanks!
Tvad,

I understand how you feel. This is largely the position of the execs at Sony and other major labels.

However, as a user, I am frustrated that I bought and own half of Disney's entire collection in VHS, some in PAL and some in NTSC and that I needed to invest in special costly video players and TV's to be able play them all back on one system and that by the time our second child was old enough to enjoy them I was forced to buy them again on DVD (because the videos have decayed and over half of them won't play anymore)

Did I do anything illegal - no. I just happened to live in two different countries when these videos were legally purchased and had children spaced far enough apart that the videos did not last.

Do I think it is fair that I am now buying DVD's of material I already own at full price - not really. I respect that all these obstacles to consumers are all legal...however, am I a satisfied customer - no, not really.

And if I want to cut a few tracks from original CD's I own for use in the car then I don't feel dishonest in doing so. I think the industry ought to feel ashamed of all the roadblocks they create for their customers.
Shadorne, I know of very few people who respect copyright law and refrain from making duplicates of recorded material. Clearly, you are in the majority.

While you make the argument that changing formats by the entertainment companies is driven at least partially by their desire to re-sell back catalogs, I would argue that format change is predominantly based on other factors, such as increased storage capacity, increased playback quality, convenience and ease of use for the consumer.

Copying material has a domino effect that touches many elements in the entertainment business including songwriters and artists...not just the monolithic entertainment companies. In addition to reducing record companies' total sale, the copying of music also reduces artists' and writers' incomes, which in turn triggers their respective unions and/or management representatives to file grievances against the recording companies, which sometimes results in lawsuits, which compells the recording companies to keep expensive lawyers on the payroll, which causes the recording companies to raise the prices of discs, which causes the artists to demand a larger cut of the pie...and on and on.

Part of the response of hardware and software manufacturers to software piracy entails developing and including anti-pirating devices into players and software, which also raises the cost of the products.

Again, I'll re-emphasize that you share the opinion of the clear majority of end users, but the chain reaction created by the cumulative effect of millions of end users innocently duplicating copyrighted material contributes to the circumstances with which you take issue.