Blind Shoot-out in San Diego -- 5 CD Players


On Saturday, February 24, a few members of the San Diego, Los Angeles and Palm Springs audio communities conducted a blind shoot-out at the home of one of the members of the San Diego Music and Audio Guild. The five CD Players selected for evaluation were: 1) a Resolution Audio Opus 21 (modified by Great Northern Sound), 2) the dcs standalone player, 3) a Meridian 808 Signature, 4) a EMM Labs Signature configuration (CDSD/DCC2 combo), and 5) an APL NWO 2.5T (the 2.5T is a 2.5 featuring a redesigned tube output stage and other improvements).

The ground rules for the shoot-out specified that two randomly draw players would be compared head-to-head, and the winner would then be compared against the next randomly drawn player, until only one unit survived (the so-called King-of-the-Hill method). One of our most knowledgeable members would set up each of the two competing pairs behind a curtain, adjust for volume, etc. and would not participate in the voting. Alex Peychev was the only manufacturer present, and he agreed to express no opinion until the completion of the formal process, and he also did not participate in the voting. The five of us who did the voting did so by an immediate and simultaneous show of hands after each pairing after each selection. Two pieces of well-recorded classical music on Red Book CDs were chosen because they offered a range of instrumental and vocal sonic charactistics. And since each participant voted for each piece separately, there was a total of 10 votes up for grabs at each head-to-head audition. Finally, although we all took informal notes, there was no attempt at detailed analysis recorded -- just the raw vote tally.

And now for the results:

In pairing number 1, the dcs won handily over the modified Opus 21, 9 votes to 1.

In pairing number 2, the dcs again came out on top, this time against the Meridian 808, 9 votes to 1.

In pairing number 3, the Meitner Signature was preferred over the dcs, by a closer but consistent margin (we repeated some of the head-to-head tests at the requests of the participants). The vote was 6 to 4.

Finally, in pairing number 5, the APL 2.5T bested the Meitner, 7 votes to 3.

In the interest of configuration consistance, all these auditions involved the use of a power regenerator supplying power to each of the players and involved going through a pre-amp.

This concluded the blind portion of the shoot-out. All expressed the view that the comparisons had been fairly conducted, and that even though one of the comparisons was close, the rankings overall represented a true consensus of the group's feelings.

Thereafter, without the use blind listening, we tried certain variations at the request of various of the particiapans. These involved the Meitner and the APL units exclusively, and may be summarized as follows:

First, when the APL 2.5T was removed from the power regenerator and plugged into the wall, its performance improved significantly. (Alex attributed this to the fact that the 2.5T features a linear power supply). When the Meitner unit(which utilizes a switching power supply) was plugged into the wall, its sonics deteriorated, and so it was restored to the power regenerator.

Second, when we auditioned a limited number of SACDs, the performance on both units was even better, but the improvement on the APL was unanimously felt to be dramatic.
The group concluded we had just experienced "an SACD blowout".

The above concludes the agreed-to results on the blind shoot-out. What follows is an overview of my own personal assessment of the qualitative differences I observed in the top three performers.

First of all the dcs and the Meitner are both clearly state of the art players. That the dcs scored as well as it did in its standalone implementation is in my opinion very significant. And for those of us who have auditioned prior implementations of the Meitner in previous shoot-outs, this unit is truly at the top of its game, and although it was close, had the edge on the dcs. Both the dcs and the Meitner showed all the traits one would expect on a Class A player -- excellent tonality, imaging, soundstaging, bass extension, transparency, resolution, delineation, etc.

But from my point of view, the APL 2.5T had all of the above, plus two deminsions that I feel make it truly unique. First of all, the life-like quality of the tonality across the spectrum was spot-on on all forms of instruments and voice. An second, and more difficult to describe, I had the uncany feeling that I was in the presence of real music -- lots or "air", spatial cues, etc. that simply add up to a sense of realism that I have never experienced before. When I closed my eyes, I truly felt that I was in the room with live music. What can I say.

Obviously, I invite others of the participants to express their views on-line.

Pete

petewatt
Nilthepill & Tvad - Nice try, and I completely understand. However, if the DCS, Meridian, Meitner or Resolution Audio players had been the winner, this thread would read like and ad in their favor.

BTW - You have just volunteered your systems to be the site for the repeat blind AB comparisons...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
FWIW, my post was intended as irony. I am not of the belief that this thread is a form of guerrilla marketing.
Ditto here. Ctm_cra it was just a joke (i made reduntant disclaimers, if you noticed). Tvad's pharse 'Tag Team' inspired the joke.
But I think only one person should front the thread. It is easier that way to avoid mixed up story. And you are doing great job in giving out really detailed description of the shoot out. Keep it up.
Onhwy61: I wouldn't say that the results from the testing are exactly/directly transferrable to my situation, if by that you mean that I *know* now that I would prefer the same player(s) in my system. Saying that is, for me, not the same as saying that the testing done is not useful to me. Do we not all take in others' opinions (about many things, not just audio)? That doesn't mean we all "swallow" information whole, or make purchases based on one piece of information (although I realize that sometimes some people do). So, I find this information useful because it tells me what a group of (apparently) serious and thoughtful audiophiles thought of a few high-end players. I can digest it, gather more information, do my own listening accordingly, etc. - as I see fit. There is also an additional "data point" from this experiment: on another day, in another room and system, the order of preference - of the top three players - was the same. To summarize: it's not as if I now know exactly what player to purchase (if I had the financial resources); it's that I have more information to "chew on" and digest than I had before. If someone comes along and says he thinks the Resolution player is better than the APL, I will take in that information and consider it too.

Just one more thought: often the comments on forums are something like "I heard X player at Wonderful Audio, and my Y player blows it away"; or "I compared the X and Y players, and I think the Y player is MUCH better". *No* additional information is given, or later we find that other variables were not considered at all. I think this may be one reason that many of us are appreciative of the experiment that was done with the five players; i.e., more -and likely more reliable - information than what we typically get. I might prefer the EMM (after all, 3 of 10 votes went to it over the APL); but at least I'm narrowing the field of my players to consider.

Ctm cra: thanks for your comprehensive and thorough answers. You guys clearly thought through a lot of the issues, and were trying to do this "right".
This thread is amazing. These guys out on the west coast take the inititiave and devote considerable personal time to do one of the better head to head evaluation tests that has been done in recent memory and they get directly and indirectly backslapped with nitpicky, not so subtlely critical, posts from people who come across as a bunch of anal-retentive, towel-folding old women. I'm sure this thread has incented countless other audiophile groups to do more such tests and publish their results...NOT.