David Wilson must be a little annoyed...


the Absolute Sound has pronounced the relative new-comer Magico as having designed the least-flawed loudspeaker in the world (the Q7). the Wison XLF is described as the best "cost-no-object" speaker, and while "flawed" in some respects, is the company's best effort yet. given the lengthy history of attempts at making a perfect transducer, Wilson and its many devotees might take all this as a funny way of saying "better luck next time" instead of "this by far exceeds all that has come before which was already pretty darn good".
i have little doubt that, for $180,000 (or name another huge number) the Q7 is very VERY good. the cabinet is "inert", the drivers weigh next to nothing, and the crossovers are made from premium parts arranged as carefully as technology allows. But once upon a time, the B&W 801 Matrix ($5500) was
called the "audio end of the road" by Stereophile. so ACCURATE was this loudspeaker that you could tell what kind of bassoon the guy in the orchestra was playing, and on what row, completely distinct from every other instrument being played. you needed a chain of superior components upstream of course. but i will never forget personally auditioning this speaker and thinking "WOW"
as the music was clearer and cleaner with the best bass extension than anything i had ever heard before.
of course better speakers HAVE since been designed and the bass i was so impressed with turned out to lag behind the other drivers and needed a better design, better parts, etc. to catch up. but the Kevlar midrange unit is still with us in various forms, and the isolation of the "head unit" from the low-bass is also still a common technique. but how many multiples of $5500 (even allowing for inflation) does it take to clean up the sound of a loudspeaker, and also keep it from "shaking and baking" if you really crank up the volume?
I think everyone knows that probably $20K, maybe $30K, should give the speaker manufacturer a lot to work with. And for $50K you could wrap it in the most attractive materials on the planet Earth.
After 60 some odd years of reading about "OMG" components in the audio press, I would love to congradulate Magico on the one hand, and express my annoyance from another (and another ad.infinitum) article about the new greatest hi-fi thing for [you can't afford it]. personally i just happen to like the shape and appearance of the Q7 a lot, very clean, very uncomplicated. i do favor using grill coverings however, and feel that should always be an option
lest someone comes along "poking" the drivers to see how they move. there might even be some "contour" controls on the back turning up or down the tweeter or attenuating the bass to allow for a less than perfect room (although how could one place a "perfect" speaker in an imperfect environment?)
if this entire argument is exciting, or conversely tiresome, i just would like other persons' reactions to these pronouncements in the audio press.
and WHAT IF the Wilson XLF was placed side by side with the Q7 and you asked pro reviewers as well as music lovers to decide which speaker was better and/or which would be easier to live with long run?
while you're at it bring in a Rockport, MBL, Kharma, Nola, etc. set of speakers and try to decide all over again. Make it even more fun, and limit
the selling price to $50K or below, and see just how close you can come.
Just some random thoughts as we enter into the Audio Cliff....
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I just saw David Wilson at the bank. He was the guy in front of me with a wheel barrow full of cash, he didn’t look too upset.
Documentroom.... with all due respect there are folks here and on WBF that have stated that the Micro's sound better than many other brands, price no object. Why is it hard to believe that someone could trade in speakers after listening to them side by side? Isn't that the best way to make a determination on what you enjoy versus having to go and audition them in showrooms or listening at Audio Shows? If the person liked what he liked then who are we to comment on his decision? It's his money and his speakers to do as he wishes.

3wayxover - I agree with your comment that it's all about taste. We should be able to listen to whatever floats our boat regardless of what other's opinions are.

I have a suggetion for anyone who lives in the LA/OC area.........

Mr. Weinhart, I know you don't have an event at your store with the LAOC until October, but maybe we could do an early special event. We can invite the LAOC and ask Robert Harley to host the event and I will bring over the Evolution Acoustics MMMicroOne loudspeaker that I own and do a shootout. I think this would be a great opportunity to see how the MicroOne's stack up against the Magico's. Could be fun!!!!
... and do a shootout. I think this would be a great opportunity to see how the MicroOne's stack up against the Magico's. Could be fun!!!!

Well, maybe for you. But honestly, you missed a very important detail:

It is Business (profit).

Please don't disturb that.
'Documentroom.... with all due respect there are folks here and on WBF that have stated that the Micro's sound better than many other brands, price no object.'

One thing I do feel compelled to point out about the Micro is the cost seems to going up and up. Out here in Australia its been reported to be heading up to $6-7k. Now I don't know how true it is, or if its world wide or just something the local distributor is doing, but I do know a guy that got one and he says nice speaker - at the original it was evidently talked about being - $1500.00 - drop dead, at the $2500.00 it ended up - great value but at the higher prices I have heard bandied about forget it - there are other speakers better.

Thanks
Bill
Dont think Wilson or Magico are raking the dosh in - the price they charge is high because of the model they have chosen - namely spending a fortune on marketing so everyone knows about them. For example when new Magico speakers were released in Singapore they held a caviar and Champagne breakfast - and it was not cheap Champagne - it was Bollinger. Someone has to pay for it and guess who that is - you the consumer. Sure the owners are probably doing OK but the real cost of the speakers is in the marketing - not because inordinate profits are being made.

As a buyer of gear there is only one thing you can do - hear a wide variety of gear and make your mind up based not on what reviewers say or the glossy adds in high end magazines but on what you hear. Once you do that you will find over time your views probably will undergo a bit of a change. And if you already do that why worry about what Absolute Sound thinks of the Wilson or Magico - you will see it for what it is - simply an extension of the marketing machine/hype too many people are overly influenced by.

Thanks
Bill