Please recommend for my next upgrade


My upgrade bug bites me again, although I ok with my current system. My current system consist of:

B&W CDM9NT
Rotel RB 1080 power amp
Audible Illusions L1 preamp
Sony BDP350 Bluray player
Maverick Audio TubeMagic DAC
1 Volex 17604 power cord on power amp
Straight wire speaker cable
Other coaxial and RCA cables are just no name ordinary cables
Monster surge protector (not power conditioner)

I think my weakest links are:
Sony player
Maverick Audio DAC
no power conditioner
power cords
interconnects

I know everything plays a role, but given budget constraint of $500, what would you recommend to upgrade first that will give me biggest bang for the buck? I am thinking probably the player and DAC. Any recommendation?
gte357s
Thanks for all the reply. Just a missing detail, my Maverick Audio is already using GE tube. Actually, I am using a Rotel preamp now, and just bought a used AI preamp, it hasn't come yet. So, since the AI is already a tube preamp, I am not sure if I still should use the tube buffer from DAC, it seems it is a overdoing .. but I will try. And I heard good things on the Ratheon tube on Maverick. I can also try different tubes on the AI preamp.
And it seems the next thing I should do is the power cord and add a power conditioner.
I did some research on the porter port .. if change the port for the power bar, would it still be better since there is a power bar in front?
For the CDP. I did some research people recommend Rega Planet/Jupiter, or Musical Fidelity. But I also read some people commeting that with new DAC like Benchmark / Lavry which has jitter reduction, chaning the CDP may not bring any improvement. I am more leaning towards to upgrade my DAC instead of CDP. It is more versatile as I want to set up a music server, and I don't want to have 2 player, one dedicated to CD and one Blu-ray. And actually, the Maverick sounds decent, but I haven't try other more expensive DAC like the PS Audio with Cullen mod, so, I can't tell. Does any one have any experience in both and can tell if that worth the upgrade?

Gte357s

I’ve found personally, the transport does play a part in the two box CDP/DAC setup. To what degree is the real question.

A very good DAC that aggressively addresses jitter is a VERY GOOD thing!

Especially if you plan on going ALL digital or with a server/PC based operation… as I and others here have done.

The Lavery folks do a great job overall with their products and support.

I tried one of their DACs and loved it… but another DAC was a better fit for my system in the end.

RE tubes…. If NOS 6DJ8 Amperex Bugle Boys for $20 EACH CAN BE HAD…. I’d sure like to know where myself. I’ve no need of those tube types but I’d sure buy quite a few for speculation purposes.

…or at that price perhaps one should buy well more than they need too as I’d suspect a fair number NOT to be NOS… but just used instead.

With regard to tubes…. Finding a tube vendor that is honest and timely, as well as affordable is THE key with tube gear.

Tvad
“Now that would result in an interesting exchange of ideas...”

Uh.. yes… it has. Been there./ Done that already. It is what it is.

In fact I kind of wish it wasn’t so, but my experience says something different to me than his experience does to him…. And other’s like him. I respect their opinions yet simply find for myself, with my gear, (and several different pieces of gear along the way mind you,) that within the context of reasonableness, power cords are the fundamental step towards improving the quality of the sound, or merely altering it… more so than Ics… and usually for less money than with Ics.

…but that’s just me…. And of course, other’s like me that have found out for themselves the valu of aftermarket PCs..

Everything here… tubes, cables, power outlets, even… alter the sound or allow for gains within the system’s abilities.

Which area here gives the biggest change? Speakers. But that wasn’t on the docket this go ‘round.

Here I saw the need for a firmer foundation. A better source of reference. Therefore I submitted what I’ve done previously that stood the test of time and exchanges of various components, whilst providing me both a clearer and more precise insight to the presentation, despite those comings and goings of kit… and they do come and go.

That’s all any of us ought to do… not just guess or speculate. We ought merely share what we’ve done ourselves or should have done, given certain circumstances.

The biggest deal is that many posters have already made up their minds to some extent when such requests for assistance are posted, or mostly made up their minds…. And will go which ever way they please anyhow! Despite whatever wisdom might say otherwise.

At least here… in lots of cases…. The main benefit remains that of the OP, and not someone who has making money as their primary goal instead of purely lending first hand exp. The knowledge base here is far more often altruistic and worthwhile… and free.

Outlines and blueprints here are FREE…. The application of it however is NOT…. That rabbit hole can get very deep, very quickly.
My current Maverick DAC is only $200, to me, it is quite a bargain. When I first plug it in, I got an impression that it gives more detail and more dynamic. Then in one afternoon, I did a A/B test with and without the DAC. I found out the DAC just gives me a louder sound. If I switch to without, and turn up the volume a little bit, I can't hear any difference, or very very minor differences. I thought the processor should have a large impact on sound, but it seems not. Same as the power cord. After I switch the Volex power cord, I feel more bass. I didn't bother to do a A/B test because it is too troublesome. But now, I think it may be again just the loudness. Even the amp .. I originally use a Denon receiver, than I thought it doesn't have enough power to drive my speaker, so I bought a Rotel amp. After I hook it up, still very little improvement, just a bit more basss. To me, it seems the components that affect the sound the most are:

The source - CD
Preamp, each has its own characteristics. Adding a preamp sounds alot better than my Denon receiver.
And most important and obvious of all, the speakers. I tried quite some speakers, and finally land on B&W, and don't bother to try again, because it is too big to move around.

Although I am very tempted to upgrade the power cord, the ICs, the DAC ... etc, but I think maybe I should just save some money and upgrade my speakers to the B&W 802


The upcoming AI preamp is definitely gonna change the sound. Rolling/swapping in & out tubes will as well. Which sound is up to you.

Every BW speaker pr I’ve owned has responded exceedingly well to power. The 9NTs have less drivers than the 802N. But only a notch lower sensitivity rating… same imp for each. I got off the BW train following my 805Ns as I wanted to go with easier imp rated speakers that were more amenable to tube power.

Given the posts on the DACs sonic abilities you already have now, swapping it out for a better one likely will be your best step…. If nothing else changes. There too though, is an obstacle. $500 of them. You might corral a DA10 around that level… maybe. The Benchmark will be more, one like my BC D3, still more, and ones like the newer Ayres, & Brystons… again more $$$ than the budget..

Waiting… and saving to move into perhaps better, but surely more expensive speakers like the 802Ns will take significantly longer to save up for than the mere few hundred a better DAC will take to acquire.

Cabling is important. So is everything else. How much… to what degree… are the issues every audio hobbyist addresses or ignores.

Every option and suggestion herein are ones to do. Not just consider… but to do or go from with the current state of your system, and all will be beneficial. Depending of course on which choices in those areas you select.

Check out the DAC thingy… think about the wire deally and power line supply…. As you have the opportunity. Those 9NT ain’t bad speakers. They just need better front end gear attached to them A much better DAC that is more about music without sacrificing too much resolution & details will help a lot now.

Have fun
I listened to the Maverick for approx 1 1/2 weeks via the Audiocircle tour recently, and although my cd player is a decrepid POS the rest of my set up isn't too shabby. As a linestage the Maverick is so-so but I found the dac to be pretty good with a noticeable improvement in most areas, especially running it through my Tad-150 I'm surprised you haven't noted any type of improvement with the Maverick, most people that have listened to it have been quite impressed with it especially at it's price point. Have you tried bypassing the Maverick's pre section and running it through the Audible Illusion?