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Newbie looking for cheap dependable table

I have been lucky enough to be asked to "store" about 1,000 of my father's LP's. While growing up he would buy a few new albums every week & we would listen to them over the weekend together. They are in perfect condition, he would always clean them & store them perfectly so I know they are worth having.

My dilema is that as much as I want to get into vinyl playback it seems like a MAJOR PITA. I am intimidated by everything that I am reading here about setting up the stylus, proper cleaning & care of everything. I am not much of a tweaker with my system now unless I get off on a tangent for a little while. I also never get enough time right now to listen to my system as it is, I will need a table that is ready & waiting for me when I have few free hours. Now that being said I was intimidated when I first got into this hobby a few years ago & everyone here was kind enough to help me get my feet wet.

So the question at this point is with about $1000.00 to spend should I purchase a used Rega, Music Hall or refreshed Thorens for about $500.00? I figure with the rest of the money, I will try one of the cheaper phono stages plus necessary tools, cleaners & any other widgets.

Obviously like anything else in this crazy hobby if I find this is for me I will spend way more than I ever expected. For the moment though I am looking for a good table that will let me get used to this new world & hopefully make me want to get in over my head. If I find this isn't where I want to be I will either sell it all or offer it to my father. At this point I am still thinking I will be listening to 90% digital & only 10% analog.
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bdgregory
1,580 posts
 
Given your system, and budget, I think you may be better off skipping the Music Hall MMF-5 and going to something more - such as the VPI, MMF-7, or Linn mentioned above, or something else in that class (sorry, I don't have any specific recommendations). I have nothing against the MMF-5, in fact I had one and it's a great value and thoroughly trouble free, but once I really got back into vinyl, I found quickly that I wanted more. Based on the amount of vinyl you have, and the rest of your system, I think spending all of your budget on a good table will be worth it.

As for your concerns with the tweaking aspects, I think you'll find once you get into that it's not such a big deal. I was also concerned/intimidated, but it turns out it's not any bigger a deal than you want to make it (IMO)
fishwater OP
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Wow guys alot of really good responses. One part of me thinks I should spend more & get the best turntable I can afford but the other part of me is unsure.

The Thorens seem like a good bet used, as I was researching them I realized that Vinyl Nirvana is located less than an hour from my home. It seems he may be a logical first step helping me get started if I wanted a vintage Thorens.

On the other hand I have managed to get this far in the audio world without a local source so should I spend more a table more fitting of my system? The Music Halls seemed to get more support than I expected in this thread, that is good to see. I also have seen & heard that VPI is a good choice as well. I am certainly more worried about spending less vs. more. What a crazy hobby!

I honestly do hope I find analog to be the 90% of my listening. My old man's taste in music wasn't half bad, I picked up some of his tastes myself. The biggest turn off with vinyl has been the fact you have to repurchase music all over again but I would be getting quite the head start if I get to "store" his stuff for a while.
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restock
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Since Dave from Vinylnirvana is close by, I agree that Thorens will be a very good option for you (a TD150 or TD160 with a Linn Basik arm might be a good way to go). The Thorens requires adjusting of suspension every couple of years, but with good service person close by it should not be too much a problem.

Otherwise a Rega P3 would be a good solid suggestion. If you are willing to spent more you could take a look at Nottingham Horizon, VPI Scout, Rega P5 etc. Rega turntables are really set it and forget it turntables, no hassles at all.

Also, with 1000 records stacked away, it might be worth investing in a good record cleaning machine. I got mine only very late in this hobby but it would have made life much easier from the start.

Good luck,

Rene
pbb
1,135 posts
 
A used REGA P9 is about as simple as it gets also if you want to spend a bit more than for a brand new Technics.
markd51
741 posts
 
Hi, I would say you wouldn't exactly have to spend $1,000, or up for a decent table which will sound good, and do no harm to your LP's.

If you're willing to buy used, one could always buy a clean-mint VPI HW-19 Jr, with already installed Audioquest PT-6 Tonearm for probably 1/2 the price you mention.

There are a plethora of very good Moving Magnet Cartridges available like Grado, Denon, Audio Technica, etc., which will work great in an existing Moving Magnet Phono Stage that is within many recievers.

Other options for a very decent low cost Turntable would be a model from the Denon, Technics, or Pioneer line.

One could probably find a dead mint Denon DP-60L from the bay for about $400-$450, or so, and these were gorgeous, substantial, very heavy fully manual Turntables with Direct Drive, Strobe, Adjustable Speed, generally a very nice tonearm w/cueing control to boot.

Add a new Cartridge of the Brands I mention above, and you should be able to keep costs within $600 at most, and have a very beautiful Set-Up.

I've always admired the Denon DP-60L as one of the prettiest looking tables of the vintage era. Cost for these new I believe was around $850-$900 new.

Try to stay away from any Vintage Marantz Tables. I understand every one of them had their Armboards-Plinths incorrectly drilled by about an inch, in that one cannot ever get Correct Cartridge Overhang-Alignment with these tables.
A design flaw with these I'm afraid, that not many are aware of. Mark
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