12 inch tonearms


Thinking about adding a 12inch tonearm to try one out.

Any thoughts and experiences, good or bad, on 12 inch arms?

Looking forward to the discussion.
dmgrant1
Hello Norm,
It's o.k. if someone else posts links to reviews, I'd rather refrain from it to avoid giving the impression I'm advertising my product. A google search will show up several online mag reviews and if you need more info contact me privately.
Thanks for your understanding.

Regards,

Frank
RE: damaged review sample

I'd be happy to take the damaged review sample off your hands ;-).

Seriously, though, I read the review and thought the reviewer didn't have a clue. His only negative comments appear to come from the fact that the Schroeder tonearms are different from the usual suspects. I'm still drooling over getting one for myself.

Chris
Dear Dmgrant1: +++++ " Don't think I would have the capability to get a 12 inch properly set up ... " +++++

Please don't leave that other opinions put on your mind that you are not " capability " to set up the long tonearms.

If the long tonearms set up were really a " pain " and only for specialist people I'm sure those kind of tonearms never exist.

Around half of my tonearms are long ones and when I follow the manufacturer set up information everything is simple and works great.

I can tell you that when the cartridge/tonearm is well matched and with good set up you could be happy with both tonearm designs: shor/long, both are simple to set up there is no problem with the long ones: this is one of many myhts out there.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Raul, Thanks for the heads up. This has been fun- especially learning about the Schroeder arms. That would be my top choice, but out of my fincancial league at the moment!

I am curious to know of any opinions regarding the less expensive choices.
Dear Raul,
Anyone who has the tools/capability to set up a 9" arm perfectly will be able to set up a 12"er just as well.
But on a 12"er, any deviation from perfect will result in the nullpoints being farther off the ideal(be it Baerwald or Loefgren) than for the same error "applied" to the set up of a shorter arm. All I was saying is that 12" arms are less "forgiving" of misalignment than their shorter siblings.
Not a myth, just plain geometry ;-)

Following manufacturers recommendations, particularly for many vintage japanese arms(no matter which length) is generally not a good idea as almost all of them feature a less than ideal geometry.

How I wish that setting up a turntable perfectly was as easy as you say. The audiophile community would have plenty of dealers to choose from, all(not just a few) of them capable(and hopefully willing) to provide customer support that justifies the markup on our favorite toys. In Germany(considered an analog heaven), that number may not even match the age of my son(now in 5th grade...). And even though there are many consumers now who don't require any assistence/help from a dealer, lots of them still do and many future newbies will.

Lastly, setting up the original Goldmund T3(not even a long arm...) certainly was a pain, but it was nevertheless quite successful. For many, the tweaking/tinkering is half the fun of this hobby(nothing wrong with that).

@ Dmgrant1: By all means, get a 12" arm :-) Check out:

http://www.thomas-schick.com/arm01.htm

Affordable, easy to set up, a good match with low compliance MCs. No business affiliation....

Good night,

Frank