Benz Ruby vs Ebony


I am trying to figure out the differences between these two Benz models. They both have the same MSRP and Benz's site doesn't offer any descriptions of them.

Since both models also offer a high and low output version I assume that the two models are voiced differently and am wondering if someone would be so kind as to describe the sonic differences.

Thanks.
madfloyd
Thom,
Not sure I follow your intent! It seems your scolding Madfloyd for asking for some sonic descriptions/opinions of these two exactly priced cartridges.What's the beef? Isn't "Discussion Forum" what this is all about?
Thom,

As I mentioned, I did visit that site to try and find the info. Check that page carefully and you'll see that there are 3 Ebony models and 2 Ruby models, and all 5 are $3500.
My bad (Madfloyd) ...

Upon a re-read, I see that you were interested in the standard Ebony, with which I have no experience. I should wait until my first cup of coffee before posting.

I too was looking to open up the discussion on the cartridges.

It's interesting that the name that Benz once reserved for their top of the line Ebony LP, is now used for another cartridge (o.k. ... without the "LP").

The LP "S" class is BTW an astounding cartridge, and one of the few which would not make me cry if I had to give up my XV-1s.

My experience of the earlier Rubies (Ruby 2 and not the 3) is that they were very nice, but just the slightest bit warm in the mid-bass.

I described them to Frank Schroeder as a wonderful cartridge which was designed using good solid state electronics as a reference. I wonder if the "lesser" of the Ebony cartridges addresses this slight mid-bass bloat (emphasis on the word "slight").

Frank Schroeder and I commiserated about this a few years ago and were in agreement - that with the introduction of what was then called the LP Ebony, they hit it out of the park.

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier
Thom,
Good to see your coffee kicked in as your earlier post didn't seem all that cordial; and wasn't your style.Now that's out of the way..........do/did you not like the Ruby 3?
I recently got a 3H for my Well Tempered Refence Arm (on a VPI SuperScoutMaster) and am curious of your opinion?
To further muddy the waters, I just set up an Oracle Thalia cartridge in my system, and it is built for Oracle by Benz. It comes complete with a Benz Ebony H spec sheet, and is identical in both specs and build, with body being made of ebony. It retails for $1.6K. So far, sounds good, very natural with very powerful bass. Anyone look into this?