Opinions on Pioneer and Sansui turntables please


I found a Pioneer PL-500 turntable for sale, locally, for $120. It's with Walco ES-30EX MM cartridge and apparently in good shape.

Is it a good buy? Anyone is using or used this turntable? The "runner-up" is a Sansui SR838 for $180, also local. It is supposedly much better TT but it cannot maintain speed so it should be fixed. Anyone has experience with fixing Sansuis?

Thanks
prophos
Never, ever buy a turntable that does not work properly. Nor one missing any parts.
The prices you are being asked to pay are too high.
Elizabeth is right 100% save your money and buy yourself a Rega or any other budget TT with good pedigree. And do make sure it is complete and in excellent working order.
Schipo,

Do you really think budget Rega (such as p1 or P2) will be better that complete and in working order vintage turntable? I have read that really good old vintage TTs are better that modern budget, specifically Rega. Do you have any experience??

That Pioneer PL-500 costs one-third of a Rega and I don't want to spend $350 on a TT now.
Dear Prophos: IMHO this is the one for you:
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/99585-pioneer_pl630_turntable__high_end_dd_/

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Look into the Pioneer PL 71's or 55DX or a couple others that have rca out's that are offered on ebay like crazy. I just recieved a PL 71 last friday and just bought a 55 DX yesterday, and although I have not got it fully set up I can tell you that it blows away a P2 without question, there is no comparison. I was amazed at the detail this thing brings out effortlessly. I paid $50 and $40 for mine. But you have to be fast to get those kind of deals, otherswise expect to pay $100-$200.