Vpi vs. TW Acustic

The Raven one is not overpriced, the AC and blacknight are, overpriced sort of. In my opinion all audio gear is overpriced after say $5k per component and maybe $10k for speakers. Sure audio can and does improve when you go up in the price range but the improvements are very little when compared to the price.

I think a well matched $20k system can do better in a dedicated and treated listening room then a $100K system in a modern living room.

Just paying a lot of money doesn't garentee a great system.

Sirspeedy,bashing is OK, IMO. For instance, I just had a well hyped cartridge in my own system, it was the ONLY new variable, it made my whole system suffer. Am I now to assume my whole system sucks, or did just the new cart? My opinion on this cartridge is pretty "controlled". Is your opinion on the TW a "controlled" opinion?

Bashing a product is fine, as is calling into question value, IMO. However, I would like proper context. For instance I heard the TW with this cart and this arm, played through these electronics and these speakers, all of which I am very familiar with. Or better yet, I had the TW in my own system for audition, and BTW I had on hand both the SOTA and the VPI, and I switched cart from table to table. Thus, I got a pretty good feel for the character of the table.

However, unless I missed it you have not provided specific information. Again feel free to bash but please do provide more information when doing so. Without such information opinions are of ZERO value.

David

People can get so passionate about this hobby. There are no absolutes and many paths to a satisfying system. There is no best. I find there are many more good products than bad which
is a good thing for all of us.

Dlanselm I like your stance on conrolled opinion, I think that is a way of judging components that doesnt get enough weight in the equation. May I ask how many hours you had on that cart before you concluded it didnt sound good and with what arm combinations you used it?

I can add that I'm a very happy owner of a Raven One. I upgraded from a fully decked out VPI Scoutmaster and no change in my system, short of changing speakes, was as dramatic and positive.

Mind you, I also switched from the VPI JMW9 Signature arm to a Triplanar at the same time, so I can't truly say how much the table was responsible vs the arm, but together the difference was astounding.